Style stuns don't stun

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Postby needs » Oct 29, 2018 19:31

I have only been hitting NPCs.
Anyone else notice this?
Is this intended behavior?


I haven't seen any work yet. reference time: last 2 months(all while soloing)
I've tried Nightshade up to lvl 26 using CS and piercing styles,
Hero up to lvl 12 using shield styles,
Champion up to lvl 22 using blades and shield styles.
This is all I remember specifically that don't work.

the stun spells for enchanter work fine

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Postby Spivo » Oct 30, 2018 10:55

You are likely using a style that is a stun style on Live, but were not in 1.65 patch time.

The staff here take great pride in styles being correct, I seriously doubt there is a bug with it.

Go here and check style: http://play.nixian.eu/index.php?page=charbuilder
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Postby needs » Oct 30, 2018 23:04

Nope, that is the charbuilder I use.

Check out the lvl 21 blades style...after block stun 4 sec. This I have tested extensively. It never stuns.

I quit playing live around 6months or so after SI came out. I know the stuns worked then.

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Postby Rendiviel » Oct 31, 2018 14:58

needs wrote:Nope, that is the charbuilder I use.

Check out the lvl 21 blades style...after block stun 4 sec. This I have tested extensively. It never stuns.

I quit playing live around 6months or so after SI came out. I know the stuns worked then.

Maybe you shouldn't be using a shield as a NS, that's the real issue here :hammer:

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Postby Genjiro » Oct 31, 2018 16:21

needs wrote:Nope, that is the charbuilder I use.

Check out the lvl 21 blades style...after block stun 4 sec. This I have tested extensively. It never stuns.

I quit playing live around 6months or so after SI came out. I know the stuns worked then.


Hello needs,

I just checked the Horizon Blade style in Hibernia.
It has an style-stun effect applied to it and should work as intended.

Since it is an reactionary style (after a swing was blocked) please make sure the style is executed within the timeframe for reactionary styles to succeed. You should see a corresponding system message weather the style was executed successfully or not.
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Postby needs » Oct 31, 2018 20:40

Rendiviel wrote:Maybe you shouldn't be using a shield as a NS, that's the real issue here


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Postby needs » Nov 02, 2018 07:22

I thought I saw "someone" testing this the other day.
Or maybe not.
It appeared that stun was being applied 2 times in a row and then wearing off...in about 1 second.
If that were the case, then it would be greatly noticed on the lower duration stuns.
But, not noticed as much on the longer stuns.

And for your reading pleasure: issue tracker #'s 0472, 1820.

It's really easy to test.
set msg for when you apply a stun, and set msg for when the stun wears off them.
Personally, I question why these msgs didn't already exist at game launch. (at least for melee range?) This is directed at mythic, not anyone here.


Could we get these msgs put in, for a week or so at least?

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Postby needs » Nov 06, 2018 03:52

Genjiro wrote:I just checked the Horizon Blade style in Hibernia.It has an style-stun effect applied to it and should work as intended.Since it is an reactionary style (after a swing was blocked) please make sure the style is executed within the timeframe for reactionary styles to succeed. You should see a corresponding system message weather the style was executed successfully or not.


I sent you a PM, did you get it?
Here's how it happens:
1) I block AND successfully execute Horizon blade.
2) I see some sort of visual effect occurring.
3) NPC never stops moving or attacking me.
4) Where is the 4 second stun?
5) I have never seen a monster get stunned by melee styles.(On Uthgard)

Do I need to post this on the issue tracker?
There are already a couple of different post about this issue with various styles.

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Postby needs » Nov 08, 2018 15:07

quick update after more testing

hero lvl 13 shield side snare on red wolfhounds

description says 4 sec stun, but it only last 2 sec.
10x exact same results

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Postby needs » Nov 11, 2018 14:18

A quick fix maybe: Make the stunned NPC immune to stun from the same person, until the 1st stun wears off.

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Postby needs » Nov 12, 2018 07:10

more test data: Enchanter and mentalist stuns only work for 1/2 the stated duration vs NPC.



Would anyone like to volunteer to test stuns on live?

Also, need a volunteer to test stun durations on uthgard against players.

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Postby needs » Nov 16, 2018 20:55

Guess no one cares if the game works right or not.

Could someone at least look at the code and see if it is specifically coded to only use 50% stun duration against NPCs?
If that is the case, then is it the same for all CC?

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Postby pweet » Nov 17, 2018 01:16

It's considered as a pve mob, stun duration gets halved before immunity.thats my guess.test it in a duel and report if it's the same.

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Postby GreenP » Nov 17, 2018 01:28

My internet is pretty slow. I can't see any testdata ? Pls repost
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Postby Genjiro » Jan 07, 2019 11:37

Will check this again.
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