When i was checking for confusion spells i noticed that none of them are actually working against charmed or casted pets. The spell would land but the pet would act normally, anytime.
With very few exceptions back in 1.65 all pet had a chance of gettin confused by confusion spells. Somewhere around 2005-2007 all summoned pets got fully immune to confusionspells, but there is nothing on patchnotes except for necropets gained it with patch 1.75
Classes forced to charm "wild" mobs still have to deal with confuse until today, so mostly menty,minstrel and sorc. Also fnf pets by theu and anis are not immune until today.
Just checked for druidpet on uth... its entirely immun to confuse. No spelleffect, no resisteffect, nada. The bard received a message saying " The sapling spirit cant be confused!" https://youtu.be/3QZkmyaxEEI
1. Go into rvr with a class that has access to confuse spells, bard or minst should work.
2. Spot enemy pet-caster
3. Cast confuse on their pet.
4. Any reaction? y/n ?
5. Compare with old sources pre 1.87 (2007 and earlier)
Fix + enable the confuse mechanic against pets as for 1.65era, no matter if people going to say its useless anyways!Patchconform!
http://www.ogrank.com/content/view/489/32/
DAOC Grab Bag Monday, 17 July 2006
"Q: What, if any, effect do confusion spells have in RVR? I tried searching the herald and the knowledgebase, but the word 'confusion' is used in so many articles, it was impossible to find anything that could be of use. Thanks a lot.
A: I know what you mean - I appreciate you searching first, but that doesn't always help! I gave this to Big Wheel, and he replied: "The spells interrupt another player's spell casting. And on pets, they have a slight chance to do the same thing they do vs. mobs."
Some comments(2005) saying how confusion worked on summoned pets and co.
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads/amnesia-and-confusion-effectiveness-in-rvr.180508/
"confuse can be used on enemy pets, + it insta kills theurg pets"
"and u love to see a ml9 caba pet ganking his master :)"
This is from 2003 and giving some useful info.
http://bardsofcamelot.yuku.com/topic/838/Minstrel-FAQ#.V9qm4jVlyvQ
"Q: What does Confuse do in Player-versus-Player encounters?
A: The Minstrel Confusion Shout works against some pets, but not against others. For example, Confusion can be used against a Druids pet, but not against a Bonedancers. Confused pets will randomly seek enemy targets. They will not attack their owners.
Confusion has no effect on players, but it will interrupt casters if you confuse them while they are casting a spell. This is widely regarded as the best use for Minstrel Confusion in PvP."
Some comments from german forums, 2006
http://daoc-guide.4players.de/forums/showthread.php?40137-Verwirren-im-RvR
"Hoi, mal ne Frage zu verwirren und wie ich das effektiv einsetzen kann im RvR. Wie mach ich das?
Habs mal bei nem Truppführer probiert und da stand was das ich das nicht machen kann." roughly translated this guy is asking how to use confusion in rvr. He tried to confuse a BD commander and it had no effect on it.
"Ja Verwirren geht leider nicht mehr auf BD Truppführer.
Genausowenig wie es auf Nekro Pets mehr geht.
Aber ansonsten glaub ich fast alles was so rumläuft
Edit: Also alle anderen Pets. Gegen Spieler bringt Verwirren nichts ausser dem Rupt halt."
Next guy answers, that you can no longer confuse BD commander or necropets but besides that you still can any pet.
And 2-3 vids from pendragon showing bard vs minstrel +pet
Scenario1: Pet will stay stuck, ignores all commands, even recharm doesnt fix it.
https://youtu.be/g8evwLLYDkw
Scenario2: Pet will attack even if set to passivemode, but only the player that casted confuse on pet, the bard.
https://youtu.be/hXpP1AG8MMY
Scenario3: Pet can be controlled even if confused.
https://youtu.be/H8yI881DKD4
I couldn´t get the pet to attack an ally or random player standing nearby, ever. If it was going to attack player remaining in passivemode its always the player that casted confuse on it(the bard). Weird.
They wrecked the livecode or its been always lousy like that? Anyone able to confirm attacking allies also worked at some point ?
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