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EternitySphere Myrmidon Posts: 134 Joined: Mar 25, 2010 01:00	by EternitySphere » Jun 17, 2012 20:43 Blue wrote: Nef Melody wrote:in b4 close/delete uthgard is like north korea If spam and senseless posts continue this will happen, yes. You did this to threads that were not spam or flame. They were perfectly fine discussions. Alb - Eternitys, Eternityz, Spectres, Prophecy, Phantasm, Swarm Mid - Spheres, Cicada, Aalea Eternitys - If were allowing custom changes, why would the staff choose to remove a very very good and highly accepted custom change such as barrels? Then on top of that, use the "it's livelike" excuse as a reason for removing them? If staff are so concerned about livelike and that's the direction the staff wish to go, I'd fully support a 100% livelike server. However if there are custom changes on the server, then using the "livelike" excuse is being nothing more then hypocritical. Staff - Locked!

BobtheSkelly Myrmidon Posts: 72 Joined: Dec 30, 2010 22:30	by BobtheSkelly » Jun 17, 2012 20:43 Thanks for the change. Wasn't what I was expecting but either way it should make things interesting. Keep the changes coming though. My fingers are crossed for the change that brings rangers back down.

EternitySphere Myrmidon Posts: 134 Joined: Mar 25, 2010 01:00	by EternitySphere » Jun 17, 2012 20:45 Blue wrote:Horses destroy balance with 20 seconds reuse delay after combat? Doubt that. Combining pots to bottle/barrel destroy balance? Alb - Eternitys, Eternityz, Spectres, Prophecy, Phantasm, Swarm Mid - Spheres, Cicada, Aalea Eternitys - If were allowing custom changes, why would the staff choose to remove a very very good and highly accepted custom change such as barrels? Then on top of that, use the "it's livelike" excuse as a reason for removing them? If staff are so concerned about livelike and that's the direction the staff wish to go, I'd fully support a 100% livelike server. However if there are custom changes on the server, then using the "livelike" excuse is being nothing more then hypocritical. Staff - Locked!

Nef Melody Phoenix Knight Posts: 1601 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 16:56	by Nef Melody » Jun 17, 2012 20:45 Blue wrote:Horses destroy balance with 20 seconds reuse delay after combat? Doubt that. so imagine you are on a horse, you see an alb group coming that aint got a minstrel, you can easily get away - it's meant to be like that ? sorry for offtopic but you asked. Nefcait : Bard Gua : Enchanter My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/ReqVids/videos

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Jun 17, 2012 20:47 Nef Melody wrote: Blue wrote:Horses destroy balance with 20 seconds reuse delay after combat? Doubt that. so imagine you are on a horse, you see an alb group coming that aint got a minstrel, you can easily get away - it's meant to be like that ? sorry for offtopic but you asked. Horses don't have the fastest speed ingame. So yes I see no serious problem. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Magicco Alerion Knight Posts: 2360 Joined: Aug 01, 2010 00:00	by Magicco » Jun 17, 2012 20:56 barrels don't have the highest delve ingame. So yes I see serious problems xD

Nef Melody Phoenix Knight Posts: 1601 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 16:56	by Nef Melody » Jun 17, 2012 21:33 Blue wrote: Nef Melody wrote: Blue wrote:Horses destroy balance with 20 seconds reuse delay after combat? Doubt that. so imagine you are on a horse, you see an alb group coming that aint got a minstrel, you can easily get away - it's meant to be like that ? sorry for offtopic but you asked. Horses don't have the fastest speed ingame. So yes I see no serious problem. so you discuss horses in this thread to avoid to argue about the barrels ? restrict it to buff pots only atleast - custom fix ? so what ? it is a custom server anyway :O Nefcait : Bard Gua : Enchanter My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/ReqVids/videos

Orihiime Phoenix Knight Posts: 1740 Joined: Dec 15, 2010 11:40	by Orihiime » Jun 17, 2012 21:34 I dont see any custom things on this server Nef, dont spread false information ! 2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p

Blue Developer Posts: 15827 Joined: Apr 22, 2005 00:00	by Blue » Jun 17, 2012 21:35 The decision was made and will stay. Barrels will not come back. It's done when it's done. Thanks for your patience. Every bug gets fixed. Sooner or later. "It is an inescapable law of nature that the amount of satisfaction one gains from achieving something is related to how hard it is and easy things can only elicit a fleeting superficial sort of pleasure." Blue says, "you used macro tools or macro keyboard" Pala says, "i am disabled. and i have a mechanic left hand that can be programed. its hard to play woith one hand" [Appeal] Bxxxxxxxx: "why is RA first aid cann man i stealth use and not unstealth cann man ra if man use unstealth ?????????" BannedUser: "i was not using automate game action my hand was fall on keyboard during i was sleep .... i was completly fall on keyboard ..."

Nef Melody Phoenix Knight Posts: 1601 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 16:56	by Nef Melody » Jun 17, 2012 21:40 bottles ? solos will still be running full buffed - just share the reason why you did this with the community. Nefcait : Bard Gua : Enchanter My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/ReqVids/videos

Mikeyboy Warder Posts: 29 Joined: Apr 21, 2012 13:33	by Mikeyboy » Jun 17, 2012 22:01 Nef Melody wrote:bottles ? solos will still be running full buffed - just share the reason why you did this with the community. seriously....why hasn't a reason for the change been given? .....my guess would be the reason for the change doesn't really fit the actual change at all....the decided change that was implemented is a round about attempt at fixing a problem that honestly doesn't have anything to do with barrels at all.....so you implement a "fix" by eliminating barrels in order to control stat buffs which the "fix" does nothing to actually reduce the "problem" and instead causes pretty much EVERYONE grief....SERIOUSLY...why was it important to eliminate barrels from the game? In what way does it balance anything and more importantly to whom does it make this game any more enjoyable?!? Could we at least get a direct and honest response to that?

Nef Melody Phoenix Knight Posts: 1601 Joined: Nov 22, 2010 16:56	by Nef Melody » Jun 17, 2012 22:05 not livelike - does not matter if no single person wants that ''fix'' lol Nefcait : Bard Gua : Enchanter My Youtube Channel : https://www.youtube.com/user/ReqVids/videos

EternitySphere Myrmidon Posts: 134 Joined: Mar 25, 2010 01:00	by EternitySphere » Jun 17, 2012 22:12 Blue wrote:The decision was made and will stay. Barrels will not come back. So it doesn't matter to you that >95% of the servers population disagrees? It's more important for you to stand your ground and push people off the server then to admit this change makes absolutely no sense at all? People that aren't open to discussion about why they're wrong tend to find themselves and their projects alone. It's not the project developer that makes it successful, it's the peopel that support the project and the developers that listen the most that are successful. But hey...if you really want a single player daoc...... Alb - Eternitys, Eternityz, Spectres, Prophecy, Phantasm, Swarm Mid - Spheres, Cicada, Aalea Eternitys - If were allowing custom changes, why would the staff choose to remove a very very good and highly accepted custom change such as barrels? Then on top of that, use the "it's livelike" excuse as a reason for removing them? If staff are so concerned about livelike and that's the direction the staff wish to go, I'd fully support a 100% livelike server. However if there are custom changes on the server, then using the "livelike" excuse is being nothing more then hypocritical. Staff - Locked!

monty Eagle Knight Posts: 798 Joined: Apr 01, 2006 00:00	by monty » Jun 17, 2012 22:14 so barrels are deleted? what abouth my full vault of empty barrels? can"t you just give us some time to get used to changes like that? like: 1/08/2012 barrels will no longer be usable on this server, this way ppl can organise towards it like the bountypoint nerf some years ago... some knew and bought stuff with their points, other didn't know and lost theirs.. hmm, and why delete the barrels? just make the reuse timer longer, <img src="http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/Raven4eva/MontySigcopy.jpg" border="0" alt="Sig">

Abydos Game Master Posts: 6839 Joined: Jan 22, 2011 21:14	by Abydos » Jun 17, 2012 22:16 Barrels were removed as they were not a component of the game in 1.69. Our patch limit target is 1.69, which is where we are moving our current patch limit (1.80) to 1.69. Furthermore as to the discussion on bottles and/or draughts - The ability for both solos and group players to carry large quantities of potions that provide instant power, regen, or other buffs have a dramatic effect on balance in both RVR and PVE. This change was debated since before I joined the staff and has been ongoing for the past 18 months since I joined. To say the various points have not been considered is a fallacy. This matter is closed. Further discussion is not needed at this time. This change will stay. Staff may take up the issue again in the future, but for now we're going to let the dust settle and see how things shake out. Please do not open new topics on this matter.