For my soon 50 theurg (40 earth, 36 wind) I planned to get a cheap beginners template ( http://www.tokk.eu/tokkblog/index.php/2 ... emp?blog=2 ) for now, and maybe a high end temp later.

Due to newest patch, all focus is no longer possible, so I need better jewlry or mp parts anyway, so I am thinking about making a very decent temp from the beginning, which should at least offer +11 Wind, stats, hps, resists full cap.

I won't solo or smallman a lot, so I dont think buff charges are necessary. What else should I build into temp? Would do +earth do any good? Is +manapool any worth for theurg (if it doesnt increase base pool from which pet mana usage is calculated?)... anything else?

There are so many extremely expensive caster templates out with lots of tajendi stuff - but whats the reason for it? I will carry along mana pots and mana reggen pots for raids without sorc anyway.

Thx for any input!

I hear alot of people opting to NOT increase their power pool due to the pets costing a % and not a fixed amount.

Also, I have heard earth+ is useless, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I can't remember atm but I think I use the Greater staff of the storms(sp?) which has all focus on it

Yes, crafted staff should not be used anymore in a mage template.

HulkGris wrote:Yes, crafted staff should not be used anymore in a mage template.

Why?

Plok wrote:

HulkGris wrote:Yes, crafted staff should not be used anymore in a mage template.

Why?

Well, because you need now 2 slots instead of 1 - but as casters with one spell line are pretty easily to sc, this should not be a too big problem.... except maybe you wanna max str for carry rams or whatever... or make a template for all possible speccs..

Plok wrote:

HulkGris wrote:Yes, crafted staff should not be used anymore in a mage template.

Why?

Cause u would need 3 sc slots for the 50 focus stones on theurgstaff^^

OT: Make sure u have a pom charge on one of your items. U will need it when doing pve.
Best but expensive solution for this is Gelid Whisperer. Cheaper items r Sh Staff (pom3) or cloth crown from Grand Summoner (pom4). Sorry for not remembering any item names

So anyone who can post a usefull theug template then?

Salandril wrote:

Plok wrote:

HulkGris wrote:Yes, crafted staff should not be used anymore in a mage template.

Why?

Cause u would need 3 sc slots for the 50 focus stones on theurgstaff^^

OT: Make sure u have a pom charge on one of your items. U will need it when doing pve.
Best but expensive solution for this is Gelid Whisperer. Cheaper items r Sh Staff (pom3) or cloth crown from Grand Summoner (pom4). Sorry for not remembering any item names

Pom charge doesn't have to be built in. U can easily switch items to buff it or buy pom pots instead. The only charge item u should consider putting into ur template is the insta dd one to rupt quickly in rvr. I would suggest using Obedience as staff for insta dd. When I made my temp this staff was riddiculously cheap.

Plok wrote:So anyone who can post a usefull theug template then?

Items of this one were cheap when i bought them.
+ For cheaper result, you can use 99% arms, and reduce power bonus (+11 power on arms become +7 i think).
+ Every cloth caster can use Obedience, so every mage can use this template if they need +11 on one skill only. The +4 Wind will be wasted, but it doesn't matter.
+ Include one of the cheapest item with a 75 d/q charge (Director's Ring of Bedlam).

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STATS
STR:  30     CON:  77     DEX:   76
INT:  75     HP:  203     Power: 25

RESISTS
Crush:  26  Heat  :  26     Body :   26
Slash:  26  Cold  :  27     Spirit : 25
Thrust: 26  Matter:  26     Energy:  26

SKILLS
11 Cold Magic
4 Wind Magic

STUFF

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Body:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Jewel 1:  9 Energy Resist - 99% (Polieshed) Light Shielding Jewel
Jewel 2:  7 Thrust Resist - 99% (imperfect) Airy Shielding Jewel
Jewel 3: 19 Dexterity - 99% (Facetted) Vapor Essence Jewel
Jewel 4:  3 Cold Magic - 99% (Rough) Icy Evocation Sigil
Utility: 59,7

Arms:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Jewel 1:  5 Thrust Resist - 99% (Flawed) Airy Shielding Jewel
Jewel 2: 11 Power - 99% (Facetted) Mystic Essence Jewel
Jewel 3: 10 Intelligence - 99% (Flawed) Dusty Essence Jewel
Jewel 4: 11 Spirit Resist - 99% (Facetted) Vapor Shielding Jewel
Utility: 60,7

Head:
Imbue Points: 33,0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Jewel 1:  4 Cold Magic - 99% (Flawed) Icy Evocation Sigil
Jewel 2:  9 Heat Resist - 99% (Polieshed) Heated Shielding Jewel
Jewel 3: 16 Intelligence - 99% (Polieshed) Dusty Essence Jewel
Jewel 4:  5 Thrust Resist - 99% (Flawed) Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 58,7

Legs:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Jewel 1:  9 Thrust Resist - 99% (Polieshed) Airy Shielding Jewel
Jewel 2: 60 Hits - 99% (Precious) Blood Essence Jewel
Jewel 3:  7 Constitution - 99% (Rough) Earthen Essence Jewel
Jewel 4:  4 Cold Magic - 99% (Flawed) Icy Evocation Sigil
Utility: 57,7

Hands:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Jewel 1: 11 Slash Resist - 99% (Facetted) Watery Shielding Jewel
Jewel 2:  5 Body Resist - 99% (Flawed) Dusty Shielding Jewel
Jewel 3: 11 Crush Resist - 99% (Facetted) Fiery Shielding Jewel
Jewel 4: 10 Dexterity - 99% (Flawed) Vapor Essence Jewel
Utility: 60,7

Feet:
Imbue Points: 37,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Jewel 1: 68 Hits - 99% (Flawless) Blood Essence Jewel
Jewel 2: 13 Dexterity - 99% (imperfect) Vapor Essence Jewel
Jewel 3:  9 Slash Resist - 99% (Polieshed) Watery Shielding Jewel
Jewel 4:  9 Cold Resist - 99% (Polieshed) Icy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 61,7

2Hand:
Name: Obedience
Level: 51  Quality: 99%
DPS:  0,0  Bonus: 0%
Origin:
Effect 1:   4 Wind Magic
Effect 2:  18 Constitution
Effect 3:  10 Matter Resist
Effect 4:   8 Power
Utility: 68,1

Neck:
Name: Exquisite Avernal Necklace
Level: 50  Quality: 91%
Bonus: 30%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Kodo' in 'Darkness Falls' at locs 28k, 15k
Effect 1:  19 Constitution
Effect 2:  10 Heat Resist
Effect 3:  10 Energy Resist
Utility: 52,7

Cloak:
Name: Blessed Cloak of Alifa
Level:  0  Quality: 99%
Bonus: 0%
Origin:
Effect 1:  19 Acuity
Effect 2:  19 Dexterity
Effect 3:   9 Crush Resist
Effect 4:   9 Matter Resist
Utility: 61,5

Jewel:
Name: Gem of Spirit Abhorrent
Level: 40  Quality: 100%
Bonus: 0%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'pygmy goblin' in 'Lyonesse' at locs 39k, 34k
Effect 1:   7 Energy Resist
Effect 2:   7 Body Resist
Effect 3:   7 Heat Resist
Effect 4:   7 Matter Resist
Utility: 56,0

Waist:
Name: Superior Accursed Belt of Might
Level: 44  Quality: 100%
Bonus: 25%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Ulo' in 'Darkness Falls' at locs 27k, 14k
Effect 1:  12 Strength
Effect 2:   6 Body Resist
Effect 3:   6 Crush Resist
Effect 4:   6 Slash Resist
Utility: 44,0

Right Ring:
Name: Exquisite Infernal Black Diamond Ring
Level: 50  Quality: 90%
Bonus: 30%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Kodo' in 'Darkness Falls' at locs 28k, 15k
Effect 1:  18 Constitution
Effect 2:  18 Strength
Effect 3:  10 Cold Resist
Utility: 44,1

Left Ring:
Name: Director's Ring of Bedlam
Level: 50  Quality: 100%
Bonus: 35%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Director Kobil' in 'Darkness Falls' at locs 13k, 19k
Effect 1:  15 Constitution
Effect 2:  15 Acuity
Effect 3:   6 Spirit Resist
Utility: 32,1

Right Wrist:
Name: Veiled Bracer of Eyes
Level: 43  Quality: 99%
Bonus: 35%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Kez' in 'Dartmoor' at locs 9k, 27k
Effect 1:  15 Hits
Effect 2:   8 Body Resist
Effect 3:   8 Cold Resist
Effect 4:   8 Spirit Resist
Utility: 51,8

Left Wrist:
Name: Verdant Ornate Bracer
Level: 50  Quality: 99%
Bonus: 35%
Origin: Dropped/sold by 'Kez' in 'Dartmoor' at locs 9k, 27k
Effect 1:  15 Dexterity
Effect 2:  60 Hits
Effect 3:  15 Acuity
Effect 4:   6 Power
Utility: 47,1

Very very similar to mine.

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Statistics
STR:48/75 CON:77/75 DEX:75/75
QUI:0/75 INT:75/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:203/200
Power:14/25
AF:0/50

Resistances
Body: 26
Cold: 28
Heat: 26
Energy: 26
Matter: 26
Spirit: 26+5
Crush: 26+2
Slash: 26+3
Thrust: 26

Skills
Cold Magic: 11
Wind Magic: 4

Focuses
Earth Magic: 50
Cold Magic: 50
Wind Magic: 50

Bonuses

Chest:
Imbue: 33.0/28 (Quality: 99)
2 Cold Magic
19 Intelligence
9% Slash
9% Heat
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Arms:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
3 Cold Magic
7% Thrust
22 Dexterity
60 Hits
Utility: 58.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
22 Intelligence
9% Spirit
5% Body
7% Thrust
Utility: 56.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 33.0/28 (Quality: 99)
9% Spirit
7% Energy
7% Thrust
3 Cold Magic
Utility: 61.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands:
Imbue: 33.5/28 (Quality: 99)
11% Crush
2% Energy
68 Hits
5% Thrust
Utility: 53.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Feet:
Imbue: 33.0/28 (Quality: 99)
3 Cold Magic
4 Constitution
11% Slash
19 Dexterity
Utility: 52.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Two-Handed (obedience):
Imbue: 39.0
4 Wind Magic
18 Constitution
10% Matter
8 Power
50 ALL spell lines Focus
Utility: 69.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (exquisite avernal necklace):
Imbue: 33.5
19 Constitution
10% Heat
10% Energy
Utility: 52.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (blessed cloak of alifa):
Imbue: 37.0
19 Acuity
19 Dexterity
9% Crush
9% Matter
Utility: 61.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Jewel (gem of spirit abhorrent):
Imbue: 30.0
7% Body
7% Energy
7% Heat
7% Matter
Utility: 56.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Superior Accursed Belt of Might ):
Imbue: 24.0
12 Strength
6% Body
6% Crush
6% Slash
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Ring (diamond ring):
Imbue: 30.0
18 Strength
18 Constitution
10% Cold
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (diamond ring):
Imbue: 30.0
18 Strength
18 Constitution
10% Cold
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (verdant ornate bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
15 Dexterity
60 Hits
15 Acuity
6 Power
Utility: 47.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Wrist (veiled bracer of eyes):
Imbue: 29.5
15 Hits
8% Body
8% Cold
8% Spirit
Utility: 51.8
TOA Utility: 0.0

Just my 2 Cents:
Why do you want a beginner template? Join or better organize some Temple Runs, SHRaids etc and you have enough Platins or items for a Highend Template. Dont waste some platins for a so called Beginner Template . And dont forget the double costs and tip for the SCler and Alchemist

What would a highend temp do better?

It is an all cap temp, even some str. I got dd on staff and on df one hand staff. I could easily swap in an acu buff charge item, though I hardly manage to nuke, as I m perma rupted or chasen by enemy offtanks. I prefer pom or mana pots over charges, as they got a better timer, and leave my dd for rupt. AF Charge I got on crafted cloak, maybe from epic when I manage to do it.

So, with better jewlry I could cap str... I heard rumors, that capping quick for casters make you cast faster after being rupted, but I dont think so. With cap quick maybe you could kill a pet add easier...

Or what do I miss?

I did this temp when I entered Thid, and I am happy about it. There is a huge difference not going untemplated or with wilton temp into Thid. And as its cap, I think you could easily sell it... when you make a highend temp, but as I said, I do not know, what to change.

Dirtymind wrote:What would a highend temp do better?

A D/Q charge without swap. This kind of charge have to be used in fight, when you are sheard and cleirc not able to rebuff, and the swap of item will make you lost few seconds.

Dirtymind wrote:I heard rumors, that capping quick for casters make you cast faster after being rupted, but I dont think so. With cap quick maybe you could kill a pet add easier...

Faster swing speed. If you use your staff to rupt, it reduces delay until next cast... Very usefull

As I am earth/air spec, I can make full use of obedience. Also I swapped out one df dia ring with one kobil ring = d/q charge on ring, but not highest qq^^ No quick, though

I am quite a minmaxer, but as theu is my 3rd char only, I can live with those flaws , at least quite a time^^