Il so get flamed for this i know,but still,just wanna know.
Since we are on a nice sweet classic server,how can u make live tests and fix reaver damage to that ?^^
Not trying to insult any1 or flame any of the gms ( that i think are 2ing a nice job )
Just wanned to know howcome u basicly deleted all reavers,on what formula is the damage calculated,to give it such a low value ?
Will this b it now ? Leave the levi @ that and forget it ? Since as much as ive heard live has nice reavers ( as in they make proper damage and are balanced)
But talking about reavers now,i woulda agreed on some fixing,sure they were imba,but such a huge fix?
Tnx u can flame now ^^

u can test it when u have a lvl 50 reaver or on a lvl that he get his first procstyle dont know what lvl if u just leave out the toa equipment like item mom etc

then i dont know why all albs are crying that reaver suck now, they dont suck u just need only 1 reaver for ur assisttrain slam + levi + face or not face then reaver is imba again^^ then u have with Reaver abs debuff aura but i know weather it works on uth AND u do as a reaver about 150-200dmg levi (fullbuffed) + 80-120 dmg weapon so still around 300dmg on cap speed, thats still nice.

But teh real dmg dealer in alb is still teh uba merc

Sadly levi does not do 150-200 atm,not even close,allso 120 damage from weapon? what are u hitting nonbuffed hib casters ?

You make over 200 dmg in your wet dreams, normal dmg around 55 plus the levi dmg that is 117-150. maybe if u get critical u might actually do 250dmg. Thats not even funny when u do almost more dmg with armsman which is very bad dmg dealer

i only know the dmg of Darth and he does like i said dont know what u are doing

I dont think reavers are weak, not at all.

Reavers are not weak. If you dont reach over 200 Damage you clearly make something wrong. The damage is original like. Don't guess. Make a mythic account and test yourself if you cant believe it. On live they changed levi to spirit damage in 1.87. That will not come here.

If you hit against heavy resists you sure have a modifier that will lower your damage but you see that in this case. You didnt post any chatlogs nor did you tell us your spec and stats. Please stop whining about things getting fixed.

@elTakapiru: I wonder about the way you compare Reaver with Armsman.

let it be 200 dmg each swing... but it´s 200 at cap speed and this is much more than others do.. just remember its a classic shard

beside others do it with normal swings from some more positions,and reaver wont get these 200 dmg out in any other position than from the backside of a enemy. for other styles there are only 3-4 style chains,that need block etc in rvr.

btw,it might be so on live now. but live does not run on 1.80 right? and even if something is not mentioned in patchlogs,it could have changed in the past,as its changing here and noone writes it down@herald so, i hope someday uth will run on its own -non-live-balance-,and we manage to do that better,than mythic ever did.

just to mention it other classes style proccs have been nerfed too. i got a valewalker and his procc dmg in rvr has been halfed. but anyway it still stays a strong class in rvr but not the main dmg dealer.

and thats whats mythic intended .. si melee dmg dealers are very strong under some conditions and weaker than the main dmg dealers berserker/mercenary/blademaster in many other points.
In fact, on uthgard an albion assist-train contained only reavers for a long period of time. Now there are more and more Pole armsmans and mercenarys

i would say this fix works as intended lvl a cleric and some mercs/pole armsman @corwinn

the reaver damage is still good enough . there was a lot "balancing" pre 1.8x that drasticly raised the classes hp + damage output (CL+ML ...TOA stats etc)

if you compare the levi damage to the average enemy HP its really good balanced. it was too high before and people knew it .
its still a descent damage dealer and its just stupid to complain about the damage.

sure skalds can do 200 damage a swing too with their anytimer - but because they use 5.8 spd 2h hammers . that is a huge difference.

Heho, In Midgard the Healers still yell in ts when they get levis, that they need heal. I can say, when I get stunned and 2 Reavers get behind me its diffcult for the other healer to heal against this damage so often a healer have to pull out instant heals for that.
So for me Reavers are dangerous enemys and I can´t say that they make low damage, not with one hit maybe but damage over time is good.

MFG Luydor

That's true and reaver isnt a full tank. What about dot to rupt, lifedrain, pbaoe debuffs and stuff?

try it with legendary wapons and staves, it should work fine