A few things that i am puzzled about

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Evlesoa
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Postby Evlesoa » Nov 30, 2007 22:27

First of all...

I was a char with AutoTrain skill, and i put X points in to it. Lets say... 211 points in to it (iunno some random number) now when i respec, the AT skill becomes level 50, when i level, it becomes 51. This means it is still being trained (just random numbers folks, bare with me).

Now what puzzles me is... i heard that if you put 12 pts into an AT skill at level 48, you just wasted 77 skill points. I heard that you dont get the bonuses after u respec a trained skill... How can this be? This means you are losing out on bonuses or something, im not sure. Someone clarify please?

Also... different question.

As a mentalist, when you AoE dot, how do you expect to recast the dot? I've seen players do it even when in combat at least 2-3 times without interrupt. Any clue as to how?

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Postby panachier » Dec 01, 2007 04:18

if you respect a skill that AT, you'll keep 12 points at level 50 in this skill that are the points gave by the AT.

the casters can cast without being interupted if they use quick cast. it s an ability that have all pure casters that repop every 30 sec. (he can use MoC too that is a RA)
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Postby jadinfrost » Dec 01, 2007 07:34

On a similar note with auto train...at 50 for a NS you get +12 in stealth, the 77 points discussed above. I recently joined the server so if this has been detailed forgive me.

On live auto train lines cost a player no points to achieve even off initial spec...this went into play quite a long time ago. However here I noticed that the auto train lines raise as appropriate each few levels. Is this similar here, or do I need to use a respec at 50 to get my free points?
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Postby T-Man » Dec 01, 2007 08:57

@jadinfrost: The live change you mention is a 1.87 easy-mode change! Since this server is based on 1.80 it doesn't apply here. You'll only keep those extra points that were actually given to you by AT, i.e. when your skill level in the corresponding line was lower than level/4 at the time you level-up.

Please, consider the following patch notes:
1.87 wrote:AUTOTRAINING CHANGES

The current autotraining system has been revised. It will no longer punish players who spend points early in their careers.

- Characters will no longer auto train skills as they gain levels.

- When training a skill that normally would have autotrained, a player will not be charged points up to their character level's maximum autotrained skill level. Example : An Armsman who has zero slash at level 50 will not be charged for their first 12 points. After 12, they will be charged points normally for that skill.

- If you have a higher skill than what would be awarded to you by autotraining at that level, the points that would have been awarded are refunded to your skill point pool. Example : If you have 40 slash, and you hit level 48, you normally would have been autotrained to 12 slash. Since you have a higher slash than 12, those 12 points are refunded to your pool.

- The skill points will be consistent if you train through a trainer or use a respec.


On Uthgard you'll experience the usual behavior, i.e. you receive AT levels in your respective lines.
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Postby Demiurgo » Dec 01, 2007 14:47

1- Autotrain here is in the old way. You get extra skill points in some skills (for some classes) if you don't train it at all. When you respec you can't take also auto train points.
Es.
Wars autotrain axe, hammer and sword. If a war don't train them, at 50 he will have 12 in axe, hammer and sword, for a total of 77+77+77 skill points more of the 2x level who it should have. When you respec you won't have 1 in each skill, because of so you will have a too big advantage. The bigger advantage to do autotrain is those 77 points in the weapon spec you will use.

2- Simply, each dot you cast the ticks restart from 1, so if you do 2 ae dots you will do 6+1 ticks, with 3 ae dots you will do 6+1+1, ecc...
In rvr caster don't do economy with power :D

3- You will get 1 point of autotrain each 4 levels from lv 6. If you don't train stealth until 48, you will have 12 in stealth and used 0 of your effective skill points

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Postby Evlesoa » Dec 01, 2007 17:20

Demiurgo wrote:1- Autotrain here is in the old way. You get extra skill points in some skills (for some classes) if you don't train it at all. When you respec you can't take also auto train points.
Es.
Wars autotrain axe, hammer and sword. If a war don't train them, at 50 he will have 12 in axe, hammer and sword, for a total of 77+77+77 skill points more of the 2x level who it should have. When you respec you won't have 1 in each skill, because of so you will have a too big advantage. The bigger advantage to do autotrain is those 77 points in the weapon spec you will use.


Thats not true...

If you put skill points into an auto train skill, and respec at 48, you WILL have 12 AT points in it, because thats how it happened to me. Im not sure if you have to start from beginning (before it receives any bonuses from AT) or can start any time. As i said earlier, i had 1 flex, and i put in 189 pts, and that means its level 19. Then i respec, and its suddenly minimum level is 5! When i leveled to 24, the flex suddenly became 6! So obviously it still is auto trained even after respec... was wondering if this was normal or what, since everyone says that if you respec an AT skill, you dont get the bonus from it. Well that aint true i guess.

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Postby T-Man » Dec 01, 2007 21:40

You seem to be totally misunderstanding the purpose of auto-train! The game makes sure that you do not fall behind in supposedly important skills - i.e. it will always keep them at a minimum of your character's level divided by 4. So, you'll have skill level 2 at char level 8, skill level 3 at char level 12, and so on. If you don't put points into these lines yourself the game will do so - but you'll receive bonus points when this happens.

When respeccing an AT line you can never go lower than this basic skill level. When you respec at level 19 your AT lines will always be at skill level 4. When you respec at level 20 then they will be skill level 5. Also, respeccing has nothing to do if you'll get more AT points afterwards.
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