Well... umm, my reaver build was going to be 50/50/29/9 i believe, 50 slash, 50 soulrending, 29 shields, and 9 parry. Training deficiencies were to be fixed with RAs. Also a reaver with any-time styles and respec at 48 with stone gives you AT in slash, so you get 50 pts, and u get the autotrain pts. So just go slash, and respec to get it at. Obviously AT keeps ATing even if trained in it.

Ex;

Actual Level = X (10 levels)
Autotrained Level = Y (10 levels)

1X, 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X
1Y, 4Y, 7Y, 10Y, 12Y

So put 50 pts in AT Slash, respec, poof, you got 12 pts auto. This is a lot easier to carry out builds. Sorry for being repetative.

Also amy + diamond are the best slash styles as they are any-time and do good consistent damage. I hate flex, just hate it.

I'm afraid I don't quite get your example...

For your desired build (if it makes sense or not might be discussed) you'd need 47 bonus points. There are two ways to get them:
1) Use AT on Slash and Flex until level 28 to get 54 bonus points
2) Use AT on either Slash or Flex until level 40 to get 54 bonus points

Im saying, DONT use AT. Simply level it like normally, then at 48 respec the line, and poof its 12 pts. Now put all the pts back, and u got ur bonus pts.

no you wont... with respec you ll keep 12 points in slash but it s not free points. it s point that you can put in other skill. so if you spe slash till 50 and wanna spe thrust you 'll have 73 specialisation points less than smdy that was spe thrust from the begining.

but as Tman told you if you need 54 points you can respec your slash damage at level 39 till 48. or level with thrust/crush all the time it s not so hard...

anyway i think slash reaver is not really a good dammage dealer but maybe it's just a false idea.

and i dont get why you wanna spe 50 soulrending... at 50 you get life drain that is nice but it s very expensiv... you got aura dammage that is useless exept for rupt and demezz ^^ at 49 you ll get dot that is not higher than any other of lower level.

so max you can skill is 47 i think... and i am still not sure about that. but why not test it.

Um, I came to realized that my calculation above was wrong. Your build doesn't show the Flex line but through autotrain you'll have Flex 12 at level 50.

So, this means you can get 77 bonus points for Flex but they're going to stay there.

Thus, the only way to reach your build is by getting enough bonus points out of your Slash line. This can be done e.g. by not putting any points there until level 40 - or by using line respecs each time you're about to level up to a level that can be divided by 4, i.e. at levels 7, 11, 15, ...

level with flex and go with slash later.

it wont change anything... he ll keep 12 points in flex so it ll be the same that if he trained slash all the time...

you dont get it lol

If i train slash from 1-20, and respec, slash will have automatically have the autotrain pts in it. And you get a full refund of 190 (rounded off) pts. Trust me, because I did this with a reaver, and this is exactly what happened.

Thus, i assume training slash to a higher level, other than 19, or 20, you will have pts in it.

I mean that's how it was for me, maybe a bug, but that's how it is...

Flex sux, btw.

P.S. my reaver was flex, then i went crush, and saw flex with 4 pts after respec. I leveled, and that flex became 5, even after i changed to crush.

oki i trust you. but you are wrong.

evlesoa you dont get the full refund.. you "lose" those points into slash.. if you wanna be sure to get your points.. dont spec in any of them

Well why say im wrong... i witnessed it myself

You dont LOSE points, in fact that's really dumb IMO.

If you level a skill, to 19-20 (autotrain skill) and you level it faster than it can autotrain, then you respec, and it has 4 points autotrained, you dont lose 4+3+2+1, no. You don't.

I don't see how you lose them. It's retarded because if i put in 100 pts into a skill, i GET 100 points back. Even if it gets the autotrain points.

Thus if i put 189 pts into flex, and i respec, i got my 189 pts back. Because if i didnt, i wasnt able to train my crush to level 19-20 again. Understand? What YOU put in, is what YOU get back. No matter what.

so ther emust have been some changes ... but few weeks ago at least you were wrong.

Short and sweet....I'm just counting on them not showing up.

With live for years and years now you could get auto points only if you didn't spec the line at all. As soon as you put a point in auto train was lost.

Single line respec would only return the points you put into it.

Full respec however would grant 100% auto train points according to the level you were when you used the respec. At 50 you could get your full 77 back when you respec. Thats been in live well before the current patch Uthgard runs off.

Weather its there or not...thats another story.

The system is designed to work as it was in the Classic times. It has not been changed lately.

- You'll AT if the corresponding skill line is below level/4.
- You can spend some points yourself and will still receive AT points afterwards (if eligible).
- If you put in your own skill points instead of waiting for the AT bonus points those skill points will be locked in the AT line.

@Evlesoa: Do you happen to remember when you put how many points into which line? I'd really like to test this issue myself...

Yes, i put exactly 19 levels into flex, as a reaver. Then I saw the points of autotrain kick in. So at 20 i respec, and i saw that. Then at 24, i looked and flex went up a level.