It's not fair that with str/con buff you deal as much as pure tank. He has nothing to lose. If pure tank is unbuffed, he can kill him, if tank is buffed, he will day perhaps, but that's normal that hybrids < pure tanks in melee so it's no shame. And magic is always welcome, which pure tanks will always lack. And the armor is same. They have some less HPs, but not that much.

EDIT: I just asked 50 champ how much hp he got, I had red con base buff, he got base red con and self str/con. I have 1813. I better don't ask him for dmg...If we count debuffs...impossible to win.

Ranius wrote:I know and I'm planning to have it, but anyway. Why can a thane be able to deal 510 dmg and I don't even have a slightest chance?

You forgot the healer, no? Take a shaman, you would have lost too, nvm clelerity.

@ Ranius:
You said you deal 200-300 dmg in rvr depending on armor.
I duelled with a troll warrior rr5 with 99 qual 2h hammer. He hit me for 304 dmg with back style and it was crush to mid chain = neutral. Instead I hit him with my qual 100 2h hammer and hit for 220 (I had my self he was unbuffed).
With +60 of add dmg I do almost his dmg but heavy tank still do higher dmg (I have +20 quickness so more dmg per hit and lower dmg over time)

Atm the only unbalanced think I noticed are for assassins because an infi/ns make me much more dmg than a merc PER HIT (and infi got much faster wpns) and assassin can easy kill almot every heavy/hybrid tanks without pa or backstab.
IMO it depends on something in block formula because stealthers should suck vs shielded tanks because high shield spec and low stealther wpn skill should let them block a lot, instead I rarely block something with mob3.

Zerbel wrote:

Ranius wrote:I know and I'm planning to have it, but anyway. Why can a thane be able to deal 510 dmg and I don't even have a slightest chance?

You forgot the healer, no? Take a shaman, you would have lost too, nvm clelerity.

I was buffed. Nvm celerity? Easy to say for you, mid.

Maybe heavy tanks hit slightly more, but not as they should. You must not forget that you can do pbaoe insta, insta dd, casted dd, aoe, self buff dmg add, and str/con buff. And I have 5.7 spear so I hit S L O W especially when unbuffed. You mid just run your celerity and you would hit normal with speed 8.0 weapon.

yes, so sad that slower mid wpn is 5.5
But I should remind you that healer have to CAST celerity, it lasts in 20 second and it has >1000< range (healer sticking tanks to cast celeity?)
Celerity is not a buff you do and it's always active

For the "thane are op" series, I logged today and i just hit a mentalist for 174(-77) dmg with taunt 2h. Should I say more?

So what if its that range and duration? You have it! You simply have it! And I see tanks get it often. And I hit today on savage 102 with taunt. I lack endu so much...you got low endu anytimer. You got so many of those advantages, even if they're small, they make big on the end. It's easier for you to have endu5 and chain armor is resistant to slash and neutral to crush, just perfect, thrust is not so often in rvr, I have to live with slash weakness, etc. etc.

Demiurgo you saw it by yourself now, you hit 210 on me with celerity. Scale is resistant to crush...

Savages got self-melee-resistance shouts. Usually if you fight a Savage you
hit against ~50% melee resistance. When the selfbuff runs out the savage
suffers a hitpoint-drain depending on the level of the used selfbuff.
So, as a Hero you do what? Right, if you see that the Savage begins to "glow
and glim" you just try to slam him, run a bit away and wait 10sec. After these
10seconds the Savage will have around 20% less hitpoints. Another possibility
would be to just take out your shield and activate your active blocking ability.

DAoC isn't that easy. You just have to know on how to react on different
opponents and which possibilities you got with your class. CelticSpear for
example offers some nice styles, but the highest growth rate style is chained
off an after parry style which isn't that great for RvR. Actually as a hero I'd
use LargeWeapons. The Annihilation style for example is a high growth rate
from behind style which does a big bunch of dmg and I guess that a Firbolg
Hero with aug str4 and mastery of pain4 will deal great amounts of damage
with that style. Funny thing ... there are no LW Heros on Uth, or at least only
a few.

Ranius, I can only advice you to "learn" a bit more about DAoC mechanics
and the way on how different classes/opponents use to fight. I believe this
will help you in having more fun with your character.

With regards
Sethor

The problem is not in my skills, I'm not high, but I'm far from low. I know that svg losses hp, but I didn't think of engage ability^^. I picked celtic spear for thrust dmg and back sanre. Back chain has growth rates: 0.61, 0.88, 0.88, so its fine and side chain has 0.73 (my charplan shows 0.77) and follow up is 0.88

ranius you probably right, i tihnk there is something wrong too but i open another topic because "who sucks" is not really good

Who/what

Maybe I suck, maybe CS sucks, maybe hero, maybe pure tanks, etc.

Nothing sucks like black holes.
SCNR .

Ranius,all Hybrids are ment to kill of your Hero in 1on1 when you are not buffed.Period.Else what would be the meaning of picking them at all?So they can be owned always?Get real man.

Hmn Hero is a nice "solo" char °°


Af charge ftw! ^^