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Bad lag last couple of days..

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Gliss Myrmidon Posts: 143 Joined: Dec 20, 2012 18:39	Reply with quote by Gliss » Mar 20, 2017 01:54 Mine went away for like 1 day ...now it's back again Currently playing on Hib/Uthgard: (Blood Feud) 50 Druid Gliss 50, 38 Warden Glliss, 50 Ment Glisseal, Servers: Guin(Alb), all classic servers, Ywain Realm: Guin(Alb), Classic(all 3), Ywain(all 3) Guilds: Guin (Honored Circle, Vilgance),Classic(?),Ywain(SLC) Characters: Albs- Alaxx rr5 friar, Lillie rr5 minstrel, Zewky rr5 cleric Hibs- Gliss rr10 druid, Glisseal rr9 eld, Zewk rr9 Hero, Zewks rr7 Warden Mids- Glisseal rr6 Shaman,Blue rr6 Skald, Blueback rr6 runemaster

Laberintica Warder Posts: 34 Joined: Jan 16, 2013 07:07	Reply with quote by Laberintica » Mar 20, 2017 01:55 Intermittent red lag every 20 sec's or so..: 99.167.37.137 - 0 \| 2464 \| 2464 \| 19 \| 21 \| 1271 \| 20 \| \| 99.167.141.124 - 0 \| 2464 \| 2464 \| 19 \| 20 \| 39 \| 20 \| \| 12.83.70.9 - 0 \| 2464 \| 2464 \| 20 \| 22 \| 53 \| 21 \| \| 12.122.155.169 - 0 \| 2465 \| 2465 \| 20 \| 23 \| 47 \| 23 \| \| mai-b1-link.telia.net - 0 \| 2466 \| 2466 \| 27 \| 28 \| 64 \| 28 \| \| ash-bb4-link.telia.net - 11 \| 1747 \| 1568 \| 52 \| 53 \| 91 \| 54 \| \| ffm-bb3-link.telia.net - 10 \| 1768 \| 1593 \| 148 \| 149 \| 182 \| 149 \| \| ffm-b4-link.telia.net - 12 \| 1711 \| 1522 \| 149 \| 152 \| 277 \| 153 \| \| ae6-1299.fra20.core-backbone.com - 11 \| 1742 \| 1560 \| 154 \| 157 \| 234 \| 155 \| \| core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner.de - 1 \| 2418 \| 2406 \| 0 \| 146 \| 176 \| 145 \| \| core1.fra.hetzner.com - 1 \| 2426 \| 2416 \| 142 \| 146 \| 177 \| 146 \| \| core21.fsn1.hetzner.com - 1 \| 2443 \| 2438 \| 146 \| 151 \| 193 \| 147 \| \| ex9k2.rz14.hetzner.de - 1 \| 2403 \| 2387 \| 146 \| 151 \| 210 \| 149 \| \|static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de - 1 \| 2398 \| 2381 \| 146 \| 150 \| 173 \| 148 \| \|________________________________________________\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\| This one is short but because I went LD , I was just killing some rock imps: 99.167.37.137 - 0 \| 147 \| 147 \| 19 \| 21 \| 30 \| 20 \| \| 99.167.141.124 - 0 \| 147 \| 147 \| 20 \| 21 \| 33 \| 20 \| \| 12.83.70.9 - 0 \| 147 \| 147 \| 20 \| 23 \| 29 \| 21 \| \| 12.122.155.169 - 0 \| 147 \| 147 \| 21 \| 23 \| 30 \| 21 \| \| mai-b1-link.telia.net - 0 \| 147 \| 147 \| 27 \| 28 \| 33 \| 28 \| \| ash-bb4-link.telia.net - 9 \| 111 \| 102 \| 52 \| 54 \| 62 \| 53 \| \| ffm-bb3-link.telia.net - 10 \| 107 \| 97 \| 148 \| 149 \| 159 \| 149 \| \| ffm-b4-link.telia.net - 9 \| 112 \| 103 \| 149 \| 151 \| 173 \| 150 \| \| ae6-1299.fra20.core-backbone.com - 6 \| 120 \| 113 \| 154 \| 156 \| 186 \| 155 \| \| core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner.de - 22 \| 80 \| 63 \| 158 \| 161 \| 170 \| 161 \| \| core1.fra.hetzner.com - 21 \| 79 \| 63 \| 159 \| 161 \| 169 \| 162 \| \| core21.fsn1.hetzner.com - 14 \| 95 \| 82 \| 163 \| 166 \| 179 \| 165 \| \| ex9k2.rz14.hetzner.de - 16 \| 92 \| 78 \| 163 \| 166 \| 191 \| 165 \| \|static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de - 16 \| 88 \| 74 \| 162 \| 165 \| 179 \| 165

sogeou Warder Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 20, 2017 17:12	Reply with quote by sogeou » Mar 20, 2017 02:55 Yes, server has gone to poop. Link dead and packet loss and red pings. Was fine today. They have something going on with people from N.A.

Laberintica Warder Posts: 34 Joined: Jan 16, 2013 07:07	Reply with quote by Laberintica » Mar 20, 2017 19:47 sogeou wrote:Yes, server has gone to poop. Link dead and packet loss and red pings. Was fine today. They have something going on with people from N.A. I could understand if that was just constant lag, but from January to early March I did not experience any issues... I wonder what happened or if maybe our connection got re-routed

Torgo Eagle Knight Posts: 827 Joined: Nov 29, 2010 17:57	Reply with quote by Torgo » Mar 20, 2017 22:43 Quite frustrating as most speed tests and such look OK and most tracerts don't show any "terrible" response times. I would think possibly it was related to the nature of a online game and the ISP but others have posted they are playing other online games without issue so it points to something more Uthgard related. Mysterious...

sogeou Warder Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 20, 2017 17:12	Reply with quote by sogeou » Mar 21, 2017 03:25 Laberintica wrote: sogeou wrote:Yes, server has gone to poop. Link dead and packet loss and red pings. Was fine today. They have something going on with people from N.A. I could understand if that was just constant lag, but from January to early March I did not experience any issues... I wonder what happened or if maybe our connection got re-routed Yeah, I don't know. But, I log out once I start getting lag. Have not played much in the last week.

Gil Alerion Knight Posts: 2061 Joined: Jan 06, 2010 01:00 Location: Denmark	Reply with quote by Gil » Mar 21, 2017 07:15 Torgo wrote:Quite frustrating as most speed tests and such look OK and most tracerts don't show any "terrible" response times. I would think possibly it was related to the nature of a online game and the ISP but others have posted they are playing other online games without issue so it points to something more Uthgard related. Mysterious... Lag is almost ALWAYS an internet issue. Maybe the other online games they can play without issue are hosted on a server that is closer to where they live? If you have >10 hops to server A and more than 20 hops to server B, the path to server A has less opportunities for delays. Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker \| MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman \| Gil - Uth2 Zerker \| Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman

Torgo Eagle Knight Posts: 827 Joined: Nov 29, 2010 17:57	Reply with quote by Torgo » Mar 21, 2017 15:47 Gil wrote: Torgo wrote:Quite frustrating as most speed tests and such look OK and most tracerts don't show any "terrible" response times. I would think possibly it was related to the nature of a online game and the ISP but others have posted they are playing other online games without issue so it points to something more Uthgard related. Mysterious... Lag is almost ALWAYS an internet issue. Maybe the other online games they can play without issue are hosted on a server that is closer to where they live? If you have >10 hops to server A and more than 20 hops to server B, the path to server A has less opportunities for delays. Maybe "lag" isn't the most accurate term for the symptoms of red meters and LDs. If this type of performance was standard since launch I would understand but I didn't experience problems up until about a week or two ago. If we could just discover what changed around that time maybe it could be addressed (whether it be ISP or server).

Flibberdee Myrmidon Posts: 101 Joined: Oct 29, 2013 05:42	Reply with quote by Flibberdee » Mar 21, 2017 18:53 \|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\| \| WinMTR statistics \| \| Host - % \| Sent \| Recv \| Best \| Avrg \| Wrst \| Last \| \|------------------------------------------------\|------\|------\|------\|------\|------\|------\| \| dsldevice.attlocal.net - 0 \| 1117 \| 1117 \| 0 \| 3 \| 399 \| 14 \| \|172-10-76-1.lightspeed.jcsnms.sbcglobal.net - 0 \| 1117 \| 1117 \| 18 \| 33 \| 727 \| 53 \| \| 99.24.64.186 - 1 \| 1102 \| 1098 \| 20 \| 40 \| 919 \| 76 \| \| 99.183.77.122 - 0 \| 1116 \| 1116 \| 19 \| 29 \| 1583 \| 39 \| \| 12.83.102.17 - 1 \| 1102 \| 1098 \| 19 \| 39 \| 860 \| 98 \| \| 12.122.157.6 - 1 \| 1102 \| 1098 \| 27 \| 49 \| 735 \| 46 \| \| gar24.attga.ip.att.net - 1 \| 1094 \| 1088 \| 27 \| 48 \| 952 \| 88 \| \| 192.205.33.42 - 1 \| 1090 \| 1083 \| 27 \| 48 \| 727 \| 79 \| \| ash-bb3-link.telia.net - 14 \| 731 \| 634 \| 43 \| 62 \| 594 \| 110 \| <------ \| ffm-bb4-link.telia.net - 14 \| 735 \| 639 \| 142 \| 161 \| 587 \| 165 \| <------- \| ffm-b4-link.telia.net - 12 \| 760 \| 670 \| 0 \| 161 \| 598 \| 168 \| \| ae6-1299.fra20.core-backbone.com - 13 \| 739 \| 644 \| 140 \| 160 \| 1191 \| 174 \| \| core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner.de - 9 \| 835 \| 764 \| 0 \| 157 \| 584 \| 181 \| \| core4.fra.hetzner.com - 9 \| 835 \| 764 \| 135 \| 157 \| 854 \| 146 \| \| core22.fsn1.hetzner.com - 9 \| 843 \| 774 \| 139 \| 164 \| 1169 \| 185 \| \| ex9k2.rz14.hetzner.de - 8 \| 857 \| 792 \| 139 \| 162 \| 1159 \| 180 \| \|static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de - 10 \| 820 \| 746 \| 139 \| 164 \| 1161 \| 182 \| \|________________________________________________\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\| WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider I know I have posted one before. Just doing a second one to show the majority of the packet loss is at the same hop. Every time I run this program I get the most packet loss at these two points.

Grignr Myrmidon Posts: 174 Joined: Mar 14, 2017 17:28	Reply with quote by Grignr » Mar 21, 2017 19:04 Having working in ISPs before the fact that its not yours or Uthgard's ISPs could actually make this difficult, Blue could talk to Hetzner and ask them to talk to Telia about what seems to be a lot of packet loss, but they may not have any mutual agreements in place. They may have to go through the core-backbone.com guys to talk to Telia...

Laberintica Warder Posts: 34 Joined: Jan 16, 2013 07:07	Reply with quote by Laberintica » Mar 21, 2017 19:27 Gil wrote: Torgo wrote:Quite frustrating as most speed tests and such look OK and most tracerts don't show any "terrible" response times. I would think possibly it was related to the nature of a online game and the ISP but others have posted they are playing other online games without issue so it points to something more Uthgard related. Mysterious... Lag is almost ALWAYS an internet issue. Maybe the other online games they can play without issue are hosted on a server that is closer to where they live? If you have >10 hops to server A and more than 20 hops to server B, the path to server A has less opportunities for delays. If I had 10 hops from January to March, and I have 10 hops from March - to April, why did I not experience any lag from January to March?

Gil Alerion Knight Posts: 2061 Joined: Jan 06, 2010 01:00 Location: Denmark	Reply with quote by Gil » Mar 21, 2017 20:17 Laberintica wrote: Gil wrote:Lag is almost ALWAYS an internet issue. Maybe the other online games they can play without issue are hosted on a server that is closer to where they live? If you have >10 hops to server A and more than 20 hops to server B, the path to server A has less opportunities for delays. If I had 10 hops from January to March, and I have 10 hops from March - to April, why did I not experience any lag from January to March? Because it isn't ONLY the number of hops that count. It's what happens at those nodes your hopping thru. Maybe your ISP has changed your routing and you are now going thru a node that is SOMETIMES not very efficient at forwarding the packets. If a packet is delayed too long it will timeout and have to be resent. That takes time, if it takes several trys to deliver a packet it will almost certainly get disconnected. The node that's giving you fits is 13.155.135.158 or ash-bb4-link.telia.net in Stockholm, Sweden. Try to get your ISP to route you around that node. Gil DaTroll - Merlin Zerker \| MacDeath - Uth1 Armsman \| Gil - Uth2 Zerker \| Macdeath - Uth2 Armsman

Laberintica Warder Posts: 34 Joined: Jan 16, 2013 07:07	Reply with quote by Laberintica » Mar 22, 2017 01:36 I agree Gil, I think the provider has changed routes.

Shalindra Warder Posts: 57 Joined: Feb 20, 2012 20:35 Location: Dayton, Oh	Reply with quote by Shalindra » Mar 23, 2017 18:34 I wanted to update the issue here in Dayton Ohio, the lag/ld iissues have diminished to the ppoint of an occasional lag. Not sure what the problem was but perhaps uverse got it fixed. Blue thank you for your concern, I did download that program, if we have issues again I will certainly run it. Thanks again Shalindra Midgard Guess I spoke too soon, going ld constantly, husband on the phone with uverse now, according to their tests we aren't having problems.. grr Will run and paste that packet program and past to this message. Okay Blue lded at 13:14 est, 13:26 est at which time I ran the packet tracer for 5 minutes below are the results. We experienced lags and then lds multiple times, now we just go ld cant stay in the game. Prior to running tracer we called ATT and they tested our line and modem and said there were no problems on this end. Chars online at the time Shalindra level 25 healer , Shaara lvevl 28 healer, healing for group in DF, logged back in where in Galpen, lded by the time we swam across to Gna faste. \|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\| \| WinMTR statistics \| \| Host - % \| Sent \| Recv \| Best \| Avrg \| Wrst \| Last \| \|------------------------------------------------\|------\|------\|------\|------\|------\|------\| \| homeportal - 0 \| 394 \| 394 \| 0 \| 1 \| 6 \| 1 \| \|108-213-150-3.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net - 49 \| 136 \| 70 \| 18 \| 20 \| 36 \| 20 \| \| 75.56.96.40 - 67 \| 109 \| 36 \| 0 \| 20 \| 24 \| 20 \| \| 75.56.96.32 - 73 \| 104 \| 29 \| 0 \| 20 \| 26 \| 20 \| \| 12.83.45.53 - 0 \| 394 \| 394 \| 19 \| 22 \| 39 \| 21 \| \| ggr4.cgcil.ip.att.net - 0 \| 394 \| 394 \| 27 \| 30 \| 34 \| 31 \| \| chi-b21-link.telia.net - 0 \| 394 \| 394 \| 27 \| 29 \| 35 \| 29 \| \| nyk-bb4-link.telia.net - 1 \| 383 \| 380 \| 51 \| 58 \| 64 \| 56 \| \| ffm-bb3-link.telia.net - 2 \| 376 \| 371 \| 144 \| 146 \| 153 \| 145 \| \| ffm-b4-link.telia.net - 3 \| 365 \| 357 \| 134 \| 137 \| 165 \| 135 \| \| ae10-0.fra10.core-backbone.com - 2 \| 376 \| 371 \| 139 \| 141 \| 206 \| 140 \| \| ae10-2021.fra20.core-backbone.com - 38 \| 161 \| 101 \| 0 \| 142 \| 175 \| 142 \| \| core-backbone-100g-fra.hetzner.de - 99 \| 81 \| 1 \| 175 \| 175 \| 175 \| 175 \| \| core4.fra.hetzner.com - 99 \| 81 \| 1 \| 157 \| 157 \| 157 \| 157 \| \| No response from host - 100 \| 81 \| 0 \| 0 \| 0 \| 0 \| 0 \| \| ex9k2.rz14.hetzner.de - 25 \| 204 \| 154 \| 145 \| 156 \| 175 \| 160 \| \|static.53.115.4.46.clients.your-server.de - 31 \| 182 \| 127 \| 145 \| 156 \| 175 \| 160 \| \|________________________________________________\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\|______\| WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider Last edited by Shalindra on Mar 23, 2017 19:48, edited 3 times in total.

Gypsyi Guardian Posts: 2 Joined: Mar 23, 2017 18:22	Reply with quote by Gypsyi » Mar 23, 2017 18:43 Very Unplayable ATM I got into a group today cords 21k by 51k down road from mag Mel Hib. and I could not stay connected at all just DC re-log DC re-log DC till I finally just could not take it anymore and played Wow. I did check my speed test ping 25 speed 30 down 5 up uverse ATT. North America Florida 12:06 pm thank you.