i am speaking the name of 3 characters(2 accounts).me and my brother came on to uthguard and found that both his 1 character(mrmadowl) and my 2 characters(mrmadbird,mrmadhunter) names where changed.i would like to know why. the names where not racial or anything bad. was it becasue they all started with mrmad? please post back.

Your assumption is correct. According to our rules §3a and §3b the change took effect.

§3.a Only appropriate character names are allowed. Racist, sexual, silly, or disrespecting names will not be tolerated.

§3.b The staff has the right to change the names of offending characters - or even to delete them.

Although not racial or bad, in my opinion those names fall into the silly category, resembling rather "keyboard accidents" than actual names. I'd say due to the fact that we are an OOC server we are quite permissive and tolerant regarding names (probably half of the server population would have to be renamed according to strict RP rules) - but some line has to be drawn. We don't want to see people called Superduperkiller, Theoneandonly, ... on our server. Similarly, no clan tags (e.g. Bddcain, Cktommy) are allowed.

I can understand if you don't appreciate the random names chosen to replace your old ones. Feel free to contact any server admin as soon as you have other proposals.

Seeing as the game does not let you have multiple words in your name, I think it was VERY appropriate that I used my name, as it is a compound name, and definitely NOT silly. Also, isn't T-Man silly?

t-man is only his nick in irc or in the forum, but as you can see in the signature, his nickname ingame differs a little bit from t-man.

ok then. Did you ever think that all of you names seem silly? mabey it is because of the difference in languages...I speak english and you speak german. (natively) I don't think mrmadhunter is silly at all. Does Herrverrücktjäger sound any less silly?

both silly.why dont u just get ur chars some nice names without titles,etc.

i pers. think names as sensenmann etc, should be changed as well (lv 3x char @ hib)

and if u want..hand me a copy of the char-name database,ill check them and mark those who should be changed

gz
el D.

don't you like Illll and so on..? :'(

is my charname silly or unapropriate?

believe me, if you search long enough and really want to find something wrong you could force half of the chardatabase to change their names, especially when it comes to lastnames.

i can agree with mrmadwhatever's point, the idea that some names are 'silly' is purely a personal opinion, i can understand that some may find the name 'Luv Bunny' silly, but none of them would even pause to think that there might be more behind the name than some joke or prank.

on the other hand i agree with the gms point of view, as an ex-live player i'm well aware of the fact that for starters it was not allowed to have any title or reference to a title in your charname (sorry to who-ever plays 'Lady Braemar/Wilton' but on live that would have been a big no-no) but there should be at least some tollerance or specific rules and limitations, because 'silly' is way too vague. maybe it should be changed to "compound names (names made up of several words or a sentence) especially when it is used to boast with your skill or make fun of other players" how funny rvr would be 'someone just got killed by Ablowtothehead' or more offensive 'someone just got killed by Cancer' i'm sure it might be funny... to someone, maybe, possibly.

like i said, if you want to find a name that offends the rules set (especially while 'silly' is in the rule) you'll find one, no make that hundreds, not everyone has the inspiration or interest to come up with an unique and fitting roleplaying name. ever since my arrival here the closest thing to roleplay i've seen is ppl who are playing a twink who want to be adressed with the name of the char they're playing, not with the name of their main char. that's about it. unless it's really an eyesore and the name makes you (the gms) sick when you see it, i dont really see a reason to change 'silly' names, unless other players are complaining and the owner of the char is notified of this in advance, not the 'surprise! we messed around with your charname!' kinda way. at least give the player a possibility to explain him/herself or if there's no explaining to do give them the chance to choose the new name themselves. it could very well be that someone with a charname (fictional thingy here) 'Stfu DontWhine' might actually come up with a better and more apropriate name for his char. i think that person would rather pick the new name himself than to log in and see his char now named 'Stefu' (as is what happend to someone of my guild *cough*Omulg*cough* but as i'm not aware of anything that went on before and after the namechange i'm not going to actually use it as an example or reference)

so unless the name is absolutely not acceptable in any way or several complaints have been made and the person who created the char has no aparent reason to justify the name, then i think the name should be changed. but changing names on the basis of the name being 'silly' is just asking for complaints like this (especially when it's done without the player being aware of it untill it's too late).

as for this case in particular: mrmadbird etc, to me it would've been acceptable, but then again, i'm very tollerant and i would've been easily persuaded to change it, it's really a bit of a borderline case, one where it's mostly personal opinion that really decides. if it had been just 'madbird' i would've defended you for sure.

ps: DanGer666, it's really not up to you to decide what can and what cant. as i said if it's not offensive (racist, sexual, religeous, national or just plain offensive) leave it be, unless other players actually start complaining. if you were to decide that 'Luv Bunny' is a silly name and should be changed and the next time i log in and see my char's name changed it would be Shift+Del DAoC folder, goodbye uthgard. it's still someone else's char, not yours, if you were to do the same thing on other concerns (punishing players based on personal opinion or 'a hunch'/rumor etc) it wont take long before players leave and uthgard will have less players during primetime than i has now during lowtime and i dont think that's where we want to go. if a government were to do that it wont be long untill Bush is talking about you.

my personal reason for posting this arguement is because i really want gms to clarify the 'silly' in the rules and to contact the player(or try to contact, there's always the chance the player doesnt respond to email or PM on forum and is not online for a week or 2 when this occurs) before taking action.

pps: very lowlvl chars with few copper and basic crappy equip with an offending name... be my guest, if they really dont like it they can start over, you're lvl 10 in no time, it's really the higher lvl char's i'm concerned about.

ppps: i'm done now, i think
ty for your attention,
goodnight

panachier wrote:don't you like Illll and so on..? :'(

well in my opinion... those names suck...
i know it can be funny to stealth through emain as illil and ililil (whatev^^), but it's some kind of annoying to read "x was just killed by lllllllll" and "y was killed by llllllllll".

that reminds me of my earlier times on counter-strike public servers, when everyone liked it to change his name to "." or "lllllllllll".

don't get me wrong, i'm just not amused by those names

man and it such pain when you want to invite them xD

yea at begining didnt know how to write his nick

I can understand the anger of people who get their chars renamed while at the same time you see all kind of stupid names running around and they dont get changed.

I will not give examples here, for not starting personal flames, but i have several examples in my mind, from all Realms.
Also a quick search of idiotic terms with wildcards around them on the herald brought up a lot of questionable names too.

sil

hey pana ^^.. yeah..i dont like them at all..still and..guys..the last name is ur choice..take them as u want..but..if u wanna go with at least a bit of rp..they should be rp-like as well. fletcher as lastname..or.. theredbeard..no prob.but.. "suck mydick" for example. really..great

and luv..i know its not on me to decide.. but its on the staff who runs the server. and if they would like me to search through the db..i would do it. have done it on liveservers as well. and..some uth-players still run with this live-like mental. around.. (i had to change names like ssstormtrooper etc on live.) but while this is a ooc-server,i think names like luv bunny or illili will be accepted. (As well as timmy,thenewtimmy and timmy2 etc) .

so..dont get it to serious..the staff wont tell me to take the db and search it through.as long u and the staff are happy with these names,everything is fine. maybe not for me..but i accept it,or have to

mrmadbird wrote:Also, isn't T-Man silly?

So what? As you might have noticed your name in the forum is still untouched. You can also see that none of my characters in-game uses this particular name.

mrmadbird wrote:Does Herrverrücktjäger sound any less silly?

No, most definitely not. Did you see this name in-game? No? Guess why...

DanGer666 wrote:i pers. think names as sensenmann etc, should be changed as well (lv 3x char @ hib)

That's what I meant when talking about strict RP rules.

Luv wrote:i can agree with mrmadwhatever's point, the idea that some names are 'silly' is purely a personal opinion,

It's clear that as far as names are concerned it will always be a personal matter. Someone might find a specific name annoying while others don't even care about it. And it will always be the case that the player will start arguing why someone would dare to change his oh-so-cunningly selected name!

Luv wrote:i dont really see a reason to change 'silly' names, unless other players are complaining and the owner of the char is notified of this in advance, not the 'surprise! we messed around with your charname!' kinda way.

Guess what other players are doing... Want me to post my IRC log as proof for every name changed? (OK, while I'm at it other similar names might get involved, too.)
Your idea of notifying affected players in advance sounds good but unfortunately it is not practicable. As long as the player is online, there's no problem in giving him a chance to choose another name of his own liking. However, in most cases he will be offline. So, I'd rather deal with changing the name again after the player found out and doesn't appreciate the new name. Alternatively, we could let them keep their names and put everyone in jail - only releasing them after they have come up with another name. (Doesn't sound much better to me.)

Luv wrote:i think that person would rather pick the new name himself than to log in and see his char now named 'Stefu'

There is nothing wrong in changing someone's name if he doesn't like it. In general, it's as easy as sending a /callgm (as long as an admin is available).

@fab
Illll's names are just to prevent the enemies to know how many we are and later classes (scouts are coming ^^) all twins

(and to make us famous too... )

@pop
you don't care to know how write name anyway we are stealther and nobody want stealther in group