I made an ice theurghist and I noticed that ice pets nukes do around 150% of my nuke dmg. I'm specced full ice and I use ice dd, so my dmg should be maxed. To an orange mob I do 25-30 dmg and my pets 30-40. I think it's a bit strange that a blue pet nuke better than me when I have full nuke spec. Is it normal?

u are using a snare dd then or base dd

malle wrote:u are using a snare dd then or base dd

They got same lcost and dps. I tried with dd & snare at lv 5 and with normal dd at 6 and 9

Which level you are?

I am level 44

30+11 Ice:
My Icepet does ~160 on yellow.
Basenuke ~250
Snare+dd ~ 150

Just did like 4 hits.. so nothing serious.


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Blue wrote:Which level you are?

When I made it I was level 5-9, I'm avalonian with 90+9 int so I should do good dmg. Btw even at higher level ice pets nuke for more dmg than me.

@jrhadden
If you have 30+11 ice you can use lv 24 snare dd and lv 41 baseline, it's obvious you do more dmg with baseline Also, your pet summon is lv 25, maybe higher summons make pets with stronger dd snare

Unluckily I spec'd a bit earth to try earth pets. Now I am lv 12 with 9 ice 7 earth.

I tested on a yellow mob:
with my lv 9 dd/snare I made 43(-2)-48(-2)
my pet made 52-46-51

After the same mob respawned:
with my lv 9 dd baseline I made 48(-2)-52(-2)-45(-2)
my pet made 48-53

There is a little malus for my cold dd, btw even without it I make around same dmg of my pets.
I can easly kill orange mobs with just 2 ice pets, last time I played a theurg on live (veeery long time ago ) I had to do 3 ice pets to killa my yellow.


Another question.
In the daoc builder theurg earth pets under lv 32 should last 30 seconds, the higher 60 seconds. My lv 1 and lv 7 pets last 60 seconds. Bug?

Im sure I did no mistake while testing SnareDD performance on live servers. The tests were all made with cap testing the spell values. The formula behind the spell value was very clear and matched all tests I made.

Maybe there are influences from pet stats but I doubt it.

Patch Notes 1.65 wrote:- Reduced the hitpoints on earth elementals, but increased the duration of their summon from 30 to 60 seconds. Their offensive bonus and run speed increases with higher spec.

Working as designed on Uthgard.

Blue wrote:Im sure I did no mistake while testing SnareDD performance on live servers. The tests were all made with cap testing the spell values. The formula behind the spell value was very clear and matched all tests I made.

Maybe there are influences from pet stats but I doubt it.

I think it could be influenced from caster ice spec. More points in ice you put, more dmg ice pets will do. At lv 20 i'll try to respec full ice and I'll check if they do much higher dmg like when i was full ice

playerwritten sources say that icepet makes great damage at low levels...
but after level 25 pet the damage is increased very less.

means the danger of icepets getting lesser with higher level of char.

Musikus wrote:playerwritten sources say that icepet makes great damage at low levels...
but after level 25 pet the damage is increased very less.

means the danger of icepets getting lesser with higher level of char.

On a lv 30 enemy with 10% spirit resist an ice pet makes around 160 dmg if I remind well.

I have access to a level 50 Theurg on live and will run some tests with Level 44 elementals. We will see what damage they do. Maybe theres really some slowdown in damage growth at higher levels but I doubt it. The damage is directly related to pet level and has no influence from casters ice spec.

Thx. Last time I playeed ice theur on live (around lv 13) I needed 3 pets to kill a mobs 1 lv under me. Now killing an orange with 2 pets seems a bit strange to me.