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Jezzmin
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Postby Jezzmin » Aug 20, 2010 09:45

hey there,

I was thinking about which procs to put on my armor - gold doesn't matter :D

so: is omni drain available and if yes: is it useful for a tank?

is selfhaste, as reactive proc, on armor better than dd? or self AF, which I don't think so useful as plated tank :)

my plan was to have dd on pole (dragon pole), dot on shield and dd or something on 1h...maybe selfhaste on 1h but not sure yet...armor would be completely omni-lifedrained i guess but I have no idea whether this makes sense or is possible...

edit: forgot MHB...useful? ;)

any hints? ;)

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Postby Ceadius » Aug 20, 2010 10:37

There aren't any Omni-procs on Uthgard.

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For armor should go full Ablatives.

For weapons go both DD procs (unless your temp is using a drop which you can't control).

As for shield don't use a dot proc. If your dot procs then it will kill your engauge you might have going/need. Also you never know you may block or slam which then procs your dot and screws over an ally's mezz/root. I would also go Ablative on the shield.

That's my opinion anyways. :P

Edit: Oh, as far as self-haste reactives from my experience I didn't like them over Ablatives. However I play Albion (I'm assuming you do since you mentioned plate) and haste charges are very easy to get for a ten minute 17% haste. Or heck even using the 14% barrel.

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Postby Jezzmin » Aug 20, 2010 11:00

Ceadius wrote:There aren't any Omni-procs on Uthgard.

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For armor should go full Ablatives.

For weapons go both DD procs (unless your temp is using a drop which you can't control).

As for shield don't use a dot proc. If your dot procs then it will kill your engauge you might have going/need. Also you never know you may block or slam which then procs your dot and screws over an ally's mezz/root. I would also go Ablative on the shield.

That's my opinion anyways. :P

Edit: Oh, as far as self-haste reactives from my experience I didn't like them over Ablatives. However I play Albion (I'm assuming you do since you mentioned plate) and haste charges are very easy to get for a ten minute 17% haste. Or heck even using the 14% barrel.


i thought about the mezz/root break but I play solo very often, as I usually don't play at prime time...so i dunno...also I really hate charges and pots, as they don't seem "right" to me (may seem stupid :P ) and I'm probably too lazy to recharge them all the time...

gonna wait for some other opinions ;)...guess mhbs on armor, dds on weapons and dot on shield will be just fine with me...wont fight in grp so often so dot wont be sooo bad :)

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Postby Jerrian » Aug 20, 2010 12:23

Take 2 shields then, one for pvm/solo one for grp.

Charges and Pots are a must have i guess, for solo rvr because most of all solo/stealther grps use them.

I dislike buff potions like many other players here and in my opinion they shall be removed, because Buffbots are forbidden too and it would be just consequent if potions were not allowed too then.
But things are different and it `s your choice if u use them, or not.

No other opinion, ceadius is right with the mhb thing. Remember there `s only a 5% chance to proc by any armor part that got hit and mhb have the most usefull effect cause it absorbs much damage.

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Postby Jezzmin » Aug 20, 2010 13:05

hmm now that u mention the 2 shields I realise, that I can put different procs on my large and my small shield, which would in fact make sense :D

I'll go with all MHBs on armor, dd on 1h, dot on small shield and mhb on large shield...sounds reasonable i think ;)

thanks a lot for your assistance!

one final question: what's the price of recharging (per charge) and for potions (like 1 str/con buff or something)...though I really dislike it, I'll probably have to use them (gonna try without some time before though and hopefully I can beat the buffs out of some of the buffed whatevers running around ;) )

ps: how much gold do u get for a solo kill in end rvr (level 50 enemy)? ;)

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Postby Pirith » Aug 20, 2010 14:00

Jezzmin wrote:hat's the price of recharging (per charge) and for potions (like 1 str/con buff or something)...though I really dislike it, I'll probably have to use them (gonna try without some time before though and hopefully I can beat the buffs out of some of the buffed whatevers running around ;) )

ps: how much gold do u get for a solo kill in end rvr (level 50 enemy)? ;)


That's 2 questions.

10 golds per charge, hence around 100 gold per item buff you use for 30m (if you die often) to 1h40 (if there is no enemy) which could lead to a base of 300 gold per hour, plus the charge like damage add, debuff and other stuff like this.
Note: You can also recharge them with recharge stone bought with BP points, but as stated 2 paragraphe below, chance you can pay all charge with this currency will be unsure.

Now for the potions, price varies depending on which one you choose, cheapest are the single buff potion (if you'r cheap don't make barels) but for let's say for str/con/dext/haste(level 40) and some healing ones (endo/health) you can go for 1platinium or a more depending if you craft them or buy them.

All of this to just bring an argument on Jerrian remark concerning the similitude with buffbot and potion, buffbot don't need such an ingame investment to be efficient, and that on uthgard account are also free.

Last answer, to the post scriptum - a player kill, from top of my head, is around 15/20 gold, and in solo, if you are really performant AND lucky do not expect paying your buffs with this.

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Postby Healowner » Aug 20, 2010 14:29

Pirith wrote:Note: You can also recharge them with recharge stone bought with BP points, but as stated 2 paragraphe below, chance you can pay all charge with this currency will be unsure.


You can also recharge your items by using grand recharge stones dropped by the boss frontier mobs.

Pirith wrote:Now for the potions, price varies depending on which one you choose, cheapest are the single buff potion (if you'r cheap don't make barels) but for let's say for str/con/dext/haste(level 40) and some healing ones (endo/health) you can go for 1platinium or a more depending if you craft them or buy them.


1 plat? I've never payed more than 500g for any barrel. Ever. :roll:
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Postby Pirith » Aug 20, 2010 14:44

Healowner wrote:1 plat? I've never payed more than 500g for any barrel. Ever. :roll:


Glad for you, however i meant as a total.

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