dealing with items/crafting or selling houses is part of the game.
i wasent the first one, and i am not the only one.

if you would have been interested in a real discussion about the mechanics of owning houses,
you would have started an objective thread without calling any names.

you will always find a reason to QQ me, sad enough.

Crystalin wrote: What if few other rich players starts doing the same business even not in mainly zones and they don't let free a single house? Do you think that's still fair just because the game allows it?

Yes i do. Don't really care much about housing!

Crystalin wrote:As i said I opened this thread to let players and staff reflect how to solve the problem you made since you started playing uth and I hope that staff will make a teleport for every market explorer on every zone in housing so your efforts will results totally useless and your sick job will end. Also with this post people will have more coscience and know that buying a house from you means rewarding you and letting you keeping your insane activity here.
I hope also that you'll become so impopular that people starting hate you so you won't get any invitation in raids or rvr since you're wasting a feaute on this game.

You serious care so much about the stupid house number? Just sell your stuff at a fair price and people will still come to your house even if it's 3 zones away
Supa you can still join my DR's for a extra discount on 10%!!!!!

Crystalin wrote:Like i said before to Plok imagine what happens if tomorrow a rich player like Flump decides to buy all houses existing in game. He could ask whatever he wants for a house. Btw be proud of your business and enjoy your sick way to play this game.

My business, what is my business i don't make any profit on this?? As i said before i don't care if Flump buys the hole housing zone and why would he even need it? He don't need to make any more money or i might be wrong? Well if he wanna buy the whole housing zone then i don't mind...... You just don't get it. Use /trade, uthgard forum etc! Sometimes much better than the housing.

supastar wrote:dealing with items/crafting or selling houses is part of the game.
i wasent the first one, and i am not the only one.

you will always find a reason to QQ me, sad enough.

+1

No you misunderstood Plok i didn't tell you that you're making a profit on this. I was just repeating to supa like i told to you: that if everyone starts to buy large number of lots like Supa's doing soon or later people will stay without houses, maybe you don't care but many players do. Authors of this game didn't make foundation for this purpose and the proof it that on live isn't possible buying a large number of lots.. Uthgard has a huge bug on this and supa discovered and exploited it, now some players are thinking a way to avoid this cancer that supa made and I personally hope that staff will work soon for a solution for giving players same opportunities.
The first solution doable for now is informing people to don't buy houses from this speculator. Then people judges themself if he deserver other rewards for his "efforts" or to punish him starting leaving him the houses and let him pay rents for ages.

I would ask you to keep the flames to yourselves. The issue has been stated, feel free to bump the thread or contribute constructively for it to be considered.

The simple truth is that Mythic knew that the limited number of house lots, at a stabilized price point of 300g would allow a small number of players to purchase all the house lots in the game if house lot purchases were not limited. Hence, you could only get 1 per account, and even certifiably crazy players like picticon (team animist) and jaywiz (team wizzy) only had like 6-8 active accounts, limiting 1 player's ability to buy houses to <10, and in almost all cases <4.


We are lucky that the many, many players who could afford to buy all the house lots on uthgard do not, and that this is limited to a small number of "people"

Keep in mind the "value" of HZ entrance may change in the future when we implement zone marketplaces and horse routes. There is active work being done on that front.

Abydos wrote:Keep in mind the "value" of HZ entrance may change in the future when we implement zone marketplaces and horse routes. There is active work being done on that front.

GREAT!
I hope also that you provide for some restrictions like level so this trash will end.

Abydos wrote:Keep in mind the "value" of HZ entrance may change in the future when we implement zone marketplaces and horse routes. There is active work being done on that front.

there is one problem with this whole discussion.

The OP thinks that if Supa wasn't buying these lots up , that nobody else would buy them either and that he could just walk in and take his pick of empty lots.

I think that is where this whole argument falls apart.


have you ever actually tried just talking to him about buying a lot/house, Instead of making a thread flaming him ?

he is actually a really nice guy who is just having fun in a game and isn't doing it with any malice towards anybody. He had a idea to make money without constant pve farming and he made it work . GRATS to him. I call him Uthgard Real Estate.

Personally there is no way I could handle running around paying rent and searching housing zones like he does.

But I do feel your pain so Ill offer a special discount on Albion houses that Ill pay out of my own pocket. Ill offer a 300g discount for this weekend only 9-14 through 9-15, 2013.

just use the code ZERGING NOOBS at check out.

/cheers

Cruell wrote:
The OP thinks that if Supa wasn't buying these lots up , that nobody else would buy them either and that he could just walk in and take his pick of empty lots.

That's pretty much the case. When Supa was taking a break from buying cause he was out of plat on albion or something, I bought a Caerwent house for around 1p.


Right now you could go buy a house lot in any zone other than the first one for 300g. If I were to go buy up every lot in albion that wouldn't be the case anymore now would it?


Like I said, its a good thing there is a limited number of these "people" on the server.

Cruell wrote:have you ever actually tried just talking to him about buying a lot/house

i offer several houses in a very reasonable pricing range and always wanted to find a solution.
anyway there are some players who try to rip off the houses in the fist class locations
for hilarious prices.

as this did not worked, they try now to enrage staff and comunity to expropriate my ownerwship.

i think this is the REAL reason for this QQ.

I wouldn't find anything malicious if supa decided to buy just some a small number of houses 4-5-10 but taking half of the houses at the entrance and selling them for unreasonable prices (yes unreasonable! otherwise he would have already sold of all them instead of letting them stay idle for ages) for me it's just a racket since he made a partial monopoly. So instead of having many lots naturally given by the game as it should be we have to contact this person who made an artificial market on something that wasn't remotely conceive for this purpose.

supastar wrote:i offer several houses in a very reasonable pricing range and always wanted to find a solution.

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15p for it, should I say something about this?

...Let me state it better: from my point of view it's okay buying and sell houses BUT if you find a customer every century please drastically low your price in a way who allows people to access to houses. And above all DON'T buy a huge number of lots if you don't find customers. I ****** off when i log in every realm and check houses and see just 1 person owning them: supacrack, supasong, supaking, supakin, supaman, supastar, ironone, irontwo, irontree, ironfour, ironfive, tondi, tonda, tondaz, tondazz, tondazzzzz etc. Let players enjoy this game. Neither Foundation Authors nor Uthgard Staff implement this feature just to make you profit in this abhorrent way.
The thing that you won't admit supa, is that your real goal isn't just offer a service but you JUST WANT TO COERCE PEOPLE TO BUY HOUSES JUST FROM YOU AND JUST AT YOUR PRICES and this is the reason why many people judge malicious and hateful your behaviour in game.

(Ironic stuff is that the housename zone i underlined on the map is Solas, in italian "sola" it's a slang and it means "cheat" )

Ya good thing only one person is exploiting the lack of a live like limit on house buying, would be very easy for many of us to buy every single lot on all realms, that would make any future horse route and marketplace development totally worthless.


Right now probably 50% or so of the 1st zone houses will sit unused for any foreseeable future, but that could easily be turned into the vast majority of all lots, anywhere. And it would only take a single player with the moral aptitude of that "person" previously mentioned here.

Crystalin wrote:I wouldn't find anything malicious if supa decided to buy just some a small number of houses 4-5-10

that's probably why mythic implemented a mechanic for exactly such a limit.

Crystalin wrote:15p for it, should I say something about this?

sit down, you get an F.

i only have 3 houses for my own usage there and ONE (!) for sale. i dont know the pricing, as i am dont play hib any more, i set up a inital price. and if you are able to read you will find also "feel free to make an offer, i am always interested to find a solution".

btw: that house was a trading item, i got from totenpfeil.