Houses Speculation Issue

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Samirane
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Postby Samirane » Sep 15, 2013 18:20

Force wrote:The simple truth is that Mythic knew that the limited number of house lots, at a stabilized price point of 300g would allow a small number of players to purchase all the house lots in the game if house lot purchases were not limited. Hence, you could only get 1 per account, and even certifiably crazy players like picticon (team animist) and jaywiz (team wizzy) only had like 6-8 active accounts, limiting 1 player's ability to buy houses to <10, and in almost all cases <4.


We are lucky that the many, many players who could afford to buy all the house lots on uthgard do not, and that this is limited to a small number of "people"



i can only speak for me and my SG.. we all had 2 Accounts.. and we all had 3-8 Houses per realm on ONE Account.. because we had one normal House on Main Char, and made multiple Guilds for our other Chars to have Guildhouses.. so even on live it was possible to have more then one house per Account, it was just a bit more work / time to get it. And yes.. all our one Person Guilds was in the same Alliance like our SG so it was np if you was playing a toon :)


thats just for info.. for topic:
nobody need to buy a house from his offer, there a a lot houses free in hz on all 3 realms, and everyone can go and spend time for searching a 300g lot too

i bought the first house on Midgard 1601 for around 7p the lot after the patch, just to sell my Potions, because nobody will run or port (if its later implementet) to buy stuff for under 100g.. ppl buy this at Explorer, and so i can be sure, i am always the first side from Customer searching..

there is NO other reason for a low number.. ever person WILL run 15 min even without port or Horseroute, if the offer is low enough..

but my experience show.. ppl on Uthgard are really lazy.. they buy potions from side 1 even if they are 5g higher then some on side 5-xyz..

so its nice to have a low number.. and if you want one, you need to pay maybe a bit more.. like me.. bought it not from any person, but i knew.. if i dont buy it now, anyone else will be faster then me..

every other lot, i would for sure wait untill 300g and if i dont get it.. wait or search for next..

lg Sami

btw. sry for my bad english.. german is easier ;)
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Postby Force » Sep 16, 2013 00:23

Even being limited 8 houses would be fine, here you can have HUNDREDS.

Not livelike.

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Postby Abydos » Sep 16, 2013 01:34

Please stop with all the stupid "not livelike" comments. Carry on and maybe I limit the next person who says it to 1 account only and charge $16/month.

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Postby Orihiime » Sep 16, 2013 02:14

not livelike
2012:<@[Uth]Abydos> If we don't have SI by the end of the year, Im fairly certain I wont be a GM anymore :-p

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Postby Force » Sep 16, 2013 02:30

Abydos wrote:Please stop with all the stupid "not livelike" comments. Carry on and maybe I limit the next person who says it to 1 account only and charge $16/month.

Facts are facts, you couldn't buy as many houses as you wanted, whether or not you like hearing it.

Uthgard house buying is far from livelike.

Regardless of the mechanism. What matters in the end is were you limited and if so to how many, uthgard = infinite(until no more houselots), livelike = <10

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Postby Abydos » Sep 16, 2013 05:29

Yes but it's completely irrelevant as unless we charge money theres no way to stop it, and even then, its only limited by the amount of money you have to spend. AKA moot point. Such posts are useless. Stop polluting forum by repeating it.

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Postby Force » Sep 16, 2013 07:10

Abydos wrote:Yes but it's completely irrelevant as unless we charge money theres no way to stop it, and even then, its only limited by the amount of money you have to spend. AKA moot point. Such posts are useless. Stop polluting forum by repeating it.




The only one bringing up money as a solution for uthgard is you.


The two suggestions made so far were to remove the Real Estate NPC that gives information so that you can't check which houses are open so easily, and must instead run around the zone (in this case the speculator would actually be providing service), or to limit houses to levels 40+

Just because Live's mechanism for limiting houses was monetary in part, doesn't mean Uthgard's has to be, as you suggest.

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Postby Barlox » Sep 16, 2013 07:33

Level 20+ would actually be enough to stop it.

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Postby Crystalin » Sep 16, 2013 11:19

Abydos wrote:unless we charge money theres no way to stop it

No Aby with a level restriction this market will be limited a lot.
Orihiime wrote:not livelike

Dhahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Abydos » Sep 16, 2013 21:42

No one has answered the question why does this even matter? There are hundreds of lots free. If someone buys all 200, let them waste their time / money managing them all. Eventually the repo-depot will come for them.

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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 02:00

Abydos wrote:No one has answered the question why does this even matter? There are hundreds of lots free. If someone buys all 200, let them waste their time / money managing them all. Eventually the repo-depot will come for them.




Nah, house rent is so cheap that there are countless players on this server that could afford to buy and maintain every single available house lot indefinitely. You are just lucky that at the moment only one person is abusing that broken mechanic.

Are you saying that if I buy and maintain all house lots you'll finally fix it? Or just wait and watch no new players ever able to buy a house? Seems silly that you have a non live like mechanic that is ripe for abuse, one player has already started abusing it (enough so that one zone of the housing market is nearly shut down), but because its not yet at a point where the entire house market is totally shut down you don't think there is a problem. Well, let's hope that it stays that way, but it very well may not. At least I already got my houses in the first zones.

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Postby Abydos » Sep 17, 2013 02:25

Force wrote:
Abydos wrote:No one has answered the question why does this even matter? There are hundreds of lots free. If someone buys all 200, let them waste their time / money managing them all. Eventually the repo-depot will come for them.




Nah, house rent is so cheap that there are countless players on this server that could afford to buy and maintain every single available house lot indefinitely. You are just lucky that at the moment only one person is abusing that broken mechanic.

Are you saying that if I buy and maintain all house lots you'll finally fix it? Or just wait and watch no new players ever able to buy a house? Seems silly that you have a non live like mechanic that is ripe for abuse, one player has already started abusing it (enough so that one zone of the housing market is nearly shut down), but because its not yet at a point where the entire house market is totally shut down you don't think there is a problem. Well, let's hope that it stays that way, but it very well may not. At least I already got my houses in the first zones.


If you want to buy and maintain 900 houses be my guest.

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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 03:44

Abydos wrote:If you want to buy and maintain 900 houses be my guest.




Only about 200 lots free in all of albion according to the realtor. only 60 plat in lots.

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Postby Abydos » Sep 17, 2013 04:20

Force wrote:
Abydos wrote:If you want to buy and maintain 900 houses be my guest.




Only about 200 lots free in all of albion according to the realtor. only 60 plat in lots.


Go for it. Don't duallog.

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Postby zomaknight » Sep 17, 2013 04:33

Abydos wrote:
Force wrote:
Abydos wrote:If you want to buy and maintain 900 houses be my guest.




Only about 200 lots free in all of albion according to the realtor. only 60 plat in lots.


Go for it. Don't duallog.


I loled so hard at this. You're a funny man, even though you suspended my account because a friend used it, and then got banned for something else days later.

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