Houses Speculation Issue

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Force
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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 08:23

Abydos wrote:
Force wrote:
Abydos wrote:If you want to buy and maintain 900 houses be my guest.




Only about 200 lots free in all of albion according to the realtor. only 60 plat in lots.


Go for it. Don't duallog.



I would prefer to keep the speculator population as low as possible.

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Postby epo » Sep 17, 2013 08:47

I just want to add something to this conversation/discussion.

Let's say Supa is an estate agent irl, or he has a hobby that involves calculating/speculating with money and (ab)uses his rl skills for ingame profit.
Now imagine i would do the same thing: I am working in IT so that would mean that i offer hacks/exploits on Uth for plats (or even rl money).

Isn't that somehow a bad thing to do?


The thing even worse about Supa is, that the is ruining all the prices and furthermore chances to get items at a decent price by buying off all the stuff that is "under value" and reselling them one by one in his own houses. And now guess where he got the plats from to do such things...

All i can say/recommend is: Don't buy his houses and don't buy from his houses.
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Postby supastar » Sep 17, 2013 08:52

Force wrote:Only about 200 lots free in all of albion according to the realtor.
only 60 plat in lots.


please do that! it would give you a much better better view about all this.

what you all dont see, handling a bunch of houses is a lot of work.
you need to be very well self-organizied, or you loose your houses very fast.

buying all the remaining lots in other zones is a hypothetical situation.
you need to be compeltely mad if you would try this... you will 100% crash.

why? all zones outside entrance sector are not interesting to customers.
may be you would be able to make a few hundred gold here and there,
but under the line the work is not worth it.


it's always the same:
you have been too slow or too lazy, but cry loudest about others success.

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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 09:02

Already got all the houses I need (in the first zone zomg!), just don't think people should be able to abuse non live like mechanics.

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Postby supastar » Sep 17, 2013 09:11

epo wrote:Let's say Supa is an estate agent irl, or he has a hobby that involves calculating/speculating with money and (ab)uses his rl skills for ingame profit.

you completely wrong. i only use my brain and my math skill i got in primary school.


epo wrote:Now imagine i would do the same thing:
I am working in IT so that would mean that i offer hacks/exploits on Uth for plats (or even rl money).
Isn't that somehow a bad thing to do?

most worse comparision ever, usage of hacks and exploits is against the rules.
try this, and you get bannd very fast...


epo wrote:The thing even worse about Supa is, that the is ruining all the prices and furthermore chances to get items at a decent price by buying off all the stuff that is "under value" and reselling them one by one in his own houses. And now guess where he got the plats from to do such things...

doing business is part of the game. there is absolutely NO secret about such things, many others (with much more money) do the same, even the thread starter (crystalin) did this. no one is forced to buy or sell for prices he dont like.

epo wrote:All i can say/recommend is: Don't buy his houses and don't buy from his houses.

can you please show me you legitimation to judge over other players?
i can't remember that you have been promoted to the comunity sheriff.

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Postby epo » Sep 17, 2013 10:41

supastar wrote:what you all dont see, handling a bunch of houses is a lot of work.
you need to be very well self-organizied, or you loose your houses very fast.


... vs. ...
supastar wrote:you completely wrong. i only use my brain and my math skill i got in primary school.


oh, the contradictions!

supastar wrote:doing business is part of the game. there is absolutely NO secret about such things, many others (with much more money) do the same, even the thread starter (crystalin) did this. no one is forced to buy or sell for prices he dont like.


only that they farmed their money in legitimate ways and how it's supposed to be.

supastar wrote:can you please show me you legitimation to judge over other players?


Yes, i can. It's called "freedom of speech". In the german jurisdiction you can find in in Article 5, §1 GG...
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Postby Plok » Sep 17, 2013 13:04

Some many things on this server are so far from live like. So stop speaking about all this ******.
It's amazing how many QQ kids we have in this thread. :wall:

Don't you get that Supa will keep making money on this and feel free to join him in he's amazing house rent experience. I think all your "Sherlocks" have given the gm's something to think about so just quit your baby cry and move on. Pick the houses before Supa or keep crying like kids!

supastar wrote:i can't remember that you have been promoted to the comunity sheriff.


Supa he's the big community sheriff he's Lucky Luke!


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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 13:17

Plok wrote:Some many things on this server are so far from live like. So stop speaking about all this [I am a little bunny and like flowers].




Some of us point out the plethora of things not live like here, why does that make you QQ so hard?

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Postby Plok » Sep 17, 2013 14:43

Force wrote:
Plok wrote:Some many things on this server are so far from live like. So stop speaking about all this [I am a little bunny and like flowers].


Some of us point out the plethora of things not live like here, why does that make you QQ so hard?


Tbh. i think it's is another useless crying thread, about some people who claim that Supa is such a bad and greedy person because they rather wanna sit and QQ instead of roamning for a house in the first zone. I guess that Supa isn't playing 24/7 and camping the first zone on all 3 realms? or i might be wrong, Sherlocks please inform me?. Well atleast you have the same chances as him getting the house lots but well guess most of you qqing guys are to lazy, and rather complain about a player who took them infront of you. If you didn't get some of the houses in the first zone by now well how would you ever get one if you're that lazy? If Supa didn't buy them someone else would.
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Postby Force » Sep 17, 2013 14:47

Plok wrote:
Force wrote:
Plok wrote:Some many things on this server are so far from live like. So stop speaking about all this [I am a little bunny and like flowers].


Some of us point out the plethora of things not live like here, why does that make you QQ so hard?


Tbh. i think it's is another useless crying thread, about some people who claim that Supa is such a bad and greedy person because they rather wanna sit and QQ instead of roamning for a house in the first zone. I guess that Supa isn't playing 24/7 and camping the first zone on all 3 realms? or i might be wrong, Sherlocks please inform me?. Well atleast you have the same chances as him getting the house lots but well guess most of you qqing guys are to lazy, and rather complain about a player who took them infront of you. If you didn't get some of the houses in the first zone by now well how would you ever get one if you're that lazy? If Supa didn't buy them someone else would.



Ive had a house in the first zone in all 3 realms for years and don't have a desire for any more, I just disagree with the mechanic and voice my opinion. If anything, supa buying up all the free 1st zone lots makes my houses less common and more valuable. but its still a bad system.

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Postby Gagnastiak » Sep 17, 2013 17:15

Supa did nothing wrong. He is offering an elite service for those people who can afford to pay for it. He is a great businessman and his prices are fair. Ive had some dealings with him and he is an honest person who believes his service is valuable and is willing to put up his own money to invest in this opportunity. He is just someone who is using the rules to make money...nothing wrong with that. If you don't like the system then dont blame those who use the system, but instead blame those who put the system in place. We had a great system years ago with the auctioneer, sure it was sometimes buggy, but it was a great way to sell goods without the need of housing. If this is such a big issue then petition the staff to bring back the auctioneer. I for one don't care either way, goods sell whether or not they are close to the HZ entrance or not if they are priced correctly. If you want an elite spot in HZ then go see Supa. Plain and simple.

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Postby HulkGris » Sep 17, 2013 17:20

Plok wrote:It's amazing how many QQ kids we have in this thread. :wall:
Nice troll :oops:
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