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Amisch
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Postby Amisch » Sep 10, 2013 19:10

Hi there,

first of all, to determine if its alongside the rules. Is it fair if I pay someone plats for exping a toon? I actually just dont have the time for the long term exping at Uthgard but have too much plats left. So I wonder if its allowed?

I would like a toon to 45, ideally on Alb. If thats something you can do and want some extra cash (no real money), pm me :)

(Staff if thats not tolerated, please just remove the thread)

Thanks

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Fortyseven
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Postby Fortyseven » Sep 10, 2013 19:56

Please refer to the following rules:
§5.1 Responsibility for accounts
Every player is responsible for his loginname and password. Rule violations that are committed will affect the account and the owner of the account, no matter who actually violated the rule. Account sharing is no excuse or reason for an exception.

§5.2 Restoration of lost characters, items and other data
There is no claim on the restoration of lost characters, items and other data. The decision whether to restore data or not lies in the sole discretion of the staff. Deliberately and accidently deleted characters will not be restored. There is no claim on an account recovery if the account was stolen because of insecure accountnames and/or passwords.

§5.6 Commercial use of virtual goods or skills
The trade with virtual goods (items, ingame money and all other data) and skills (crafting, leveling) for real money is strictly forbidden and will lead to a permanent ban / deletion of the account in question. In addition all other accounts of the affected players will be banned permanently. If you sell or buy any virtual goods from Uthgard services for real money, you will receive a free ban. There are no exceptions!


From my interpretation of these rules, I would assume it is allowed (no external "valuables" are involved, I'd imagine that paying Uthgard plats for a service performed on Uthgard would not qualify as "commercial use"). However, keep in mind that any breach of your account is your sole responsibility - do not give your account credentials away to someone you do not trust completely.

Any offenses someone else may commit while legitimately using your account (with your permission) will be traced back to you and have consequences for you.

As I said, this is my personal interpretation, not binding or otherwise certain. You might have to wait for internal staff feedback.
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Postby Gagnastiak » Sep 10, 2013 20:14

I used to run a service where I paid people to level toons for me for 20p per toon. I was told sometime after the rule where account trading became bannable that the service I ran for people to level toons for me was also bannable under the same rule. If this is not the case anymore than I would love to know because I have tons of plats and many toons I wish to have. Be careful if you do this that it is not in breach of the rules because Uthgard staff are not kind to rule violators.

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Postby oLd-Sneakers » Sep 11, 2013 16:38

@ Fortyseven,


Well going by what you said account trading ( account vs account ) or account vs plats would also be legit then?

As long people understand that it is on their own risc and no dev time will be spent trying to fix a situation created by players ( for example one player is disshonest and steals plats from an account or items/deletes characters for the other etc ).


Would you agree?

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Postby Barlox » Sep 11, 2013 16:48

I would love to see an answer from the admins here.

This is something a few ppl would want to buy for their plats and others would prolly prefere leveling a toon over other farming options.

And its all happening without any real money beeing involved.

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Postby oLd-Sneakers » Sep 12, 2013 15:37

Bump for answer.

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Postby HulkGris » Sep 12, 2013 17:57

Barlox wrote:And its all happening without any real money beeing involved.
Time is money !
Your time for plats = Your money for plats :D
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Postby Fortyseven » Sep 12, 2013 18:43

I will try to get the appropriate attention to this thread. Hopefully, we'll have a definitive answer soon!
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Postby Plok » Sep 14, 2013 14:30

Bump!
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Postby Barlox » Sep 14, 2013 14:36

Guess I will be the one thats will go on and Tests if this leads to a ban.

I just hope that I wont lose my Main ACC cause of it.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=31904

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Postby Magicco » Sep 14, 2013 23:59

Barlox wrote:Guess I will be the one thats will go on and Tests if this leads to a ban.

I just hope that I wont lose my Main ACC cause of it.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=31904


pretty dumb experiement

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Postby Spivo2 » Sep 16, 2013 09:36

Account trading for plats is not allowed, once spoke to either Abydos or Trishin about it in game.
And PL for plats (where you take direct control of the account), would fall well within the concept of account trading.

Edit: Actually § 5.5 directly states account trading is not allowed.

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Postby Barlox » Sep 16, 2013 09:44

Well I canceled my search and will wait for a Statement from the admins.

I Hope there is one coming, cause I dont see a clear Statement in the rules.

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Postby HulkGris » Sep 16, 2013 10:04

Spivo2 wrote:Edit: Actually § 5.5 directly states account trading is not allowed.

5.5 talks about "real-life" trade.
If you apply 5.5 to "ingame trad", it would be also forbidden to trade items :D
§5.5 Forbidden account- and charactertrades wrote:Account- and charactertrades on Uthgard are forbidden. It doesn't matter where the trade is being negotiated. Even attempts of selling or tradeing any accounts, characters, items or ingame money are forbidden and will be punished. There are no exceptions!
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Postby Spivo2 » Sep 16, 2013 11:18

HulkGris wrote:
Spivo2 wrote:Edit: Actually § 5.5 directly states account trading is not allowed.

5.5 talks about "real-life" trade.
If you apply 5.5 to "ingame trad", it would be also forbidden to trade items :D
§5.5 Forbidden account- and charactertrades wrote:Account- and charactertrades on Uthgard are forbidden. It doesn't matter where the trade is being negotiated. Even attempts of selling or tradeing any accounts, characters, items or ingame money are forbidden and will be punished. There are no exceptions!


Well I then refer to the conversation I had with either Trish or Abydos, where they told me account trades were forbidden no matter if it was for ingame or rl money.
I also think this paragraph was poorly written, I think it should have said:

§5.5 Forbidden account- and charactertrades"]Account- and charactertrades on Uthgard are forbidden. It doesn't matter where the trade is being negotiated. Even attempts of selling or tradeing any accounts, characters for items or ingame money are forbidden and will be punished. There are no exceptions!

Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to include Even attempts... because it was already stated once in the paragraph.

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