Hello guys, i'm opening this topic to know what players and staff thinks about the houses for sale by players.
I noticed that almost the 50% of houses in meath, caerwent and erikstaad belongs to the same person (supaetc, ironetc, tond-something). This player is buying all houses in housing entrances for speculate on players. I personally judge annoying this behavious as long he's exploiting a game mechanical for profit on player who must pay more for getting an house in a confortable position. It means that if he doesn't find customers for his houses they will be idle forever and nobody can own them. I thought that a solution to discourage this behaviour could be for example a restriction on level for buying the lot (for example only 40+ players can buy a lot) or directly remove the "house title" from the deed merchant so it's pointless for a player buying many lots.

He's making money on house trades like other people make money on farming legion dragon etc.

SOMEONE SELL ME A HOUSE CLOSE TO THE MID ENTRANCE 20P IS MY OFFER!

For me the difference is that drops are unlimited, houses in entrance aren't

I already offered the staff somewhat a solution to this . . . Make the Housing Informant less detailed so players actually have to search for the lots.

Currently it gives you exact house lot numbers. It's easy to check that daily, /houseface XXX, and be on the merry way. At least if they implement my suggestion, those who actually sought the lots would be rewarded. As well as introduce a massive time sink for the players that currently do this.

Live servers never really had to deal with this due to only being restricted to the accounts you pay for. Thus only about 1-3 accounts per player was possible. I believe a custom solution should be provided for this issue.

I must say though, it's disappointing players actually purchase these lots for such outrageous prices.

+1
Just want to slap this kind of player.

A level restriction could be nice to see less speculation, even if I have transfered some plats on Hib to buy a house with my first character on Hib (at lvl 20).

Well, as long as enough fools buy those totally overpriced houses, theres not much the staff should do - except completing housing (open zones, give every market in each zone the market explorer like on live and install the missing horseroutes to new opened zones).
The market controls itself - there is no reason for 99.999999% of the players to buy this shi.t.
Theres a market explorer you can port to, a bindstone at your house, a port possibility from your house to the market explorer or from dl /tnn to your house/market explorer - so you dont benefit from a house at entrance except you are power selling highly priced items at your house merchant.
The only time this should be stoped is when there are not enough slots in housing left - but again, to punish this as staff the best way is to complete housing.

Harkon wrote: so you dont benefit from a house at entrance except you are power selling highly priced items at your house merchant.

You get the point harkon.. A player who got a house at the world's end couldn't sell stuff easy as a player who got a house close to the entrance.. for now at least.. Maybe another solution could be an internal teleporter in housing who can bring you directly to another market explorer in another zone (for example torrylin, dunshire, stoneigh, dalton, arothi, frisia. etc..)

Crystalin wrote:

Harkon wrote: so you dont benefit from a house at entrance except you are power selling highly priced items at your house merchant.

You get the point harkon.. A player who got a house at the world's end couldn't sell stuff easy as a player who got a house close to the entrance.. for now at least.. Maybe another solution could be an internal teleporter in housing who can bring you directly to another market explorer in another zone (for example torrylin, dunshire, stoneigh, dalton, arothi, frisia. etc..)

Yes and that means maybe 0,001% of server population would benefit from such an overpriced house at entrance - I guess the math is not strong enough in the majority who buy those houses or they just have way too much money - well, in both cases they can bleed, i dont care.
But to fix this, like i said, complete housing - a market explorer at every zone market +working horseroutes and no zone is superior to another.

Letting one player make unlimited accounts to buy up unlimited houses is just plain stupid.

As already mentioned no one on live had more than 3 or so houses, uthgards implementation is bad.

Force wrote:Letting one player make unlimited accounts to buy up unlimited houses is just plain stupid.

As already mentioned no one on live had more than 3 or so houses, uthgards implementation is bad.

The point is that houses aren't unlimited mate.. For now there is just 1 speculator in game.. but imagine what happens if 4-5 other players starts buying houses even in other zones.. they could make a monopoly and ask whatever they want.

Crystalin wrote:

Force wrote:Letting one player make unlimited accounts to buy up unlimited houses is just plain stupid.

As already mentioned no one on live had more than 3 or so houses, uthgards implementation is bad.

The point is that houses aren't unlimited mate.. For now there is just 1 speculator in game.. but imagine what happens if 4-5 other players starts buying houses even in other zones.. they could make a monopoly and ask whatever they want.

I wasn't implying there is an infinite number of houses.


I was stating that "not placing limits" on how many houses you can buy is not live like and is also stupid.


Unlimited in that context merely means being able to purchase as many as you want without limit. Definition #1 below, as opposed to the way you read it, which would be definition #2.


unlimited
adjective
1.not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
2.boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.



At any rate, if the staff doesn't do anything to solve the problem, the community should. Should just blacklist Supasong/Iron/Tonda and his guild on alb <M Y T H> from any and all things. Is this also the same player in Reqiuem? http://herald.uthgard.net/herald.php?vi ... 6=Supastar I know that he is in M Y T H, but seems odd Requiem would have such a person in their guild. There are also some SupaXXX toons in The KW on mid but as with req on hib, im not sure if its the same person.

Yes Supa is beloved member of our guild and if you want a house in Meath feel free to pay in cash
Who cares about housing? Only PvE junkies, whom no one will ever see in emain anyway.

I commend Supa for his forethought and his business sense. I think what he is doing is completely legitimate and actually is something many people could have done, but instead he did and he should be the one to reap the profits for this. Just because one player has the means to offer a service that others could have offered does not mean that we should change the rules for it. He is running a legit business and his prices are very reasonable if you take into account how close you can actually get to the entrance. Good job Supa for this great business opportunity you have created for yourself. Jabberjaw and Jabberjaw LLC fully back this type of business and are glad that someone had the means to make it a reality.

Jabberjaw

Requiem, the M Y T H of hibernia

This is bug/exploit, should be punished, or at least prevented.