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Rudra
- Myrmidon
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by Rudra » Aug 05, 2023 21:20
Got something via PM, thanks for sending it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ3gBsVomqo
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Abydos
- Game Master
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by Abydos » Aug 05, 2023 21:39
Lest anyone get the wrong idea - you won't be seeing them again. Ever
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Snigel
- Eagle Knight
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by Snigel » Aug 05, 2023 21:50
Satas Hakx - various artists
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Valfar
- Gryphon Knight
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by Valfar » Aug 05, 2023 21:58
Abydos wrote:Lest anyone get the wrong idea - you won't be seeing them again. Ever
Reminds me of this . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USCEsv39FvY
It is what it is.
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Gilded
- Myrmidon
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by Gilded » Aug 06, 2023 00:18
Abydos is there ANY reason you can share why the "Bans" forum hasn't been updated in 3 years?
Would be nice to see character names listed there again.
Regarding Oriodan, a few months back he joined us on NA nights for keep-takes for a week or less then went radio silent, didn't reply at all to any sends. We were desperate for warm bodies, obviously had no idea he would be some clown who runs around to up gates for Alb, who (usually) re-take keeps first each morning, plus the Tues/Fri longstanding raids.
I assume the only reason he joined us was to quickly get lifter 2 or 3 to help carry around large quantities of wood (unless chests are being restocked and no one is noticing).
If he is a dual logger as has been suggested, he's likely behind a VPN and will never be banned due to lack of concrete proof.
The only workaround to preventing fast upgrades and repairs is a timer on the Lord, only allowing fast ups/repairs within say 15 mins (DF timer like) of a keep changing hands or no longer under siege. After that, it's old-school mode (no keep lord prompts). I hate even suggesting this lol.
Crappy solutions to a crappy situation caused by one guy.
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Valfar
- Gryphon Knight
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by Valfar » Aug 06, 2023 00:28
Gilded wrote:Abydos is there ANY reason you can share why the "Bans" forum hasn't been updated in 3 years?
Would be nice to see character names listed there again.
Regarding Oriodan, a few months back he joined us on NA nights for keep-takes for a week or less then went radio silent, didn't reply at all to any sends. We were desperate for warm bodies, obviously had no idea he would be some clown who runs around to up gates for Alb, who (usually) re-take keeps first each morning, plus the Tues/Fri longstanding raids.
I assume the only reason he joined us was to quickly get lifter 2 or 3 to help carry around large quantities of wood (unless chests are being restocked and no one is noticing).
If he is a dual logger as has been suggested, he's likely behind a VPN and will never be banned due to lack of concrete proof.
The only workaround to preventing fast upgrades and repairs is a timer on the Lord, only allowing fast ups/repairs within say 15 mins (DF timer like) of a keep changing hands or no longer under siege. After that, it's old-school mode (no keep lord prompts). I hate even suggesting this lol.
Crappy solutions to a crappy situation caused by one guy.
Aye, kinda weird. He seems to be afk most of the time and he seems to be at least split spec, if not very high in nature. He's solo farming them leprechauns with a script at the small leprechaun camp where people check the least often and I guess those staves give him all the wood needed to boost the doors later. Some guy posted a video of him using a script to farm leps, but he took it with a phone so the quality is really bad. Still, super weird.
It is what it is.
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Allyk123
- Myrmidon
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by Allyk123 » Aug 06, 2023 00:43
Rudra wrote:@ Nakja It's just funny when it happens unilaterally. what would you say if you keep getting upgraded the doors to level 2 and a guy comes and sets them to level 6? Although you know for sure there are no people on the realm? Right now that's not the problem, but what if people switch realms and you have zero deffer.
@Allyk123 You can take videos or pictures of the upgrader, but how are you going to prove that someone is dual-logging? Only a GM can do that.
Ask a GM then. If a GM tells you to politely go away then there is likely a reason. Occam's razor.
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Skullbones
- Myrmidon
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by Skullbones » Aug 06, 2023 00:47
Gilded wrote:If he is a dual logger as has been suggested, he's likely behind a VPN and will never be banned due to lack of concrete proof.
The only workaround to preventing fast upgrades and repairs is a timer on the Lord, only allowing fast ups/repairs within say 15 mins (DF timer like) of a keep changing hands or no longer under siege. After that, it's old-school mode (no keep lord prompts). I hate even suggesting this lol.
Yeah, Oriordan was still on earlier, so lack of proof I guess. When I saw him upgrading doors at Surs he was actually doing it the regular way and not using the lord. Idk how much time he spends upgrading doors but it has to be a ton. I'm guessing a lot of it is scripted considering he was spotted afk killing mobs, otherwise he truly has no life with the amount of time he spends upgrading doors.
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Skullbones
- Myrmidon
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by Skullbones » Aug 06, 2023 00:57
Allyk123 wrote:All these accusations, yet not a shred of proof. Sorry folks but i stand by my words. Innocent until proven guilty. Nothing personal to either of you as I'm sure you all enjoy RVR with/against me as much as myself
What's your opinion now that you have the proof you asked for?
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Allyk123
- Myrmidon
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by Allyk123 » Aug 06, 2023 01:03
Valfar wrote:Allyk123 wrote:All these accusations, yet not a shred of proof. Sorry folks but i stand by my words. Innocent until proven guilty. Nothing personal to either of you as I'm sure you all enjoy RVR with/against me as much as myself
Fair enough. Gonna post some screenshots from another player who was there with me, and I'll post my videos. Sadly, few of Aok's kills got screwed up cause media player was running in the background and took like 2/3 of the screen, so I deleted those. Still, there is plenty of evidence. I also apologize for one 8 minute long video, took them a while to actually do something (I guess a coffee break lol), but that one is especially hilarious cause Hanko the infi moves in to do a PA at the same time the other guy sits down. Also, on mid I tried doing /housefriend account <all those names> and I believe most of them were on the same account, or were divided on 2 accounts cause I got a message that account is already in the housefriend list when I tried all those names. Anyone currently playing mid can check, and you can also check if names Astian and Irvonem (characters wiped by Khaox today in mid frontiers) are linked to those accounts (Tamo/Olsen/Kurs/Wolkof/Saman) the same way . https://ibb.co/C1YFpzqhttps://ibb.co/58wh0fmhttps://ibb.co/6y83xwphttps://ibb.co/820gRVHhttps://ibb.co/3C0xLd0https://ibb.co/nsRKs8whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKjesA7pbr4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FchvZYlOMCYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9jycr--lIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJcns7V9J5shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q8dJ0gvM9Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQd8Sta7o5ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWr4m8wKOpAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VspOmmAJN8The funniest part was when they brought all these characters there 1 by 1 lol, and parked them at the exact same spot. Sadly, I didn't record this cause I ported to the BGs a few mins after that, but Tidelag was there.
To be fair those videos come across as pretty conclusive. Assuming they've already been reported, what did the GM say?
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Allyk123
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by Allyk123 » Aug 06, 2023 01:10
Since I cant edit past posts (those with iphones may understand) i'd say fair enough. I take what I said back
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Skullbones
- Myrmidon
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by Skullbones » Aug 06, 2023 01:22
Allyk123 wrote:Since I cant edit past posts (those with iphones may understand) i'd say fair enough. I take what I said back
Looks like Abydos banned him... I mean I'm with you, I played alb and never got any hint that he had characters in other realms. He didn't share cross realm RVR info with the group or guild, kept that to himself. It's too bad really, banned a second time for the exact same thing. If you look at the age of the characters, his second Inf was already level 50 before the first one got banned. So maybe he'll try again with a third inf.
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Allyk123
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by Allyk123 » Aug 06, 2023 01:27
Skullbones wrote:Allyk123 wrote:Since I cant edit past posts (those with iphones may understand) i'd say fair enough. I take what I said back
Looks like Abydos banned him... I mean I'm with you, I played alb and never got any hint that he had characters in other realms. He didn't share cross realm RVR info with the group or guild, kept that to himself. It's too bad really, banned a second time for the exact same thing. If you look at the age of the characters, his second Inf was already level 50 before the first one got banned. So maybe he'll try again with a third inf.
Seen that straight after I posted. It really is too bad but can't excuse that stuff.
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Rudra
- Myrmidon
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by Rudra » Aug 06, 2023 09:07
Good morning, it's a Pity when something like this happens and people get banned. Every player is missing on Uthgard to continue playing properly. It is not in our interest to accuse someone without reason, the aim is rather to enable fair play. I think that's in the interests of most people here.
Sorry fu Translator
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Valfar
- Gryphon Knight
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by Valfar » Aug 06, 2023 10:34
Rudra wrote:Good morning, it's a shame when something like this happens and people get banned. Every player is missing on Uthgard to continue playing properly. It is not in our interest to accuse someone without reason, the aim is rather to enable fair play. I think that's in the interests of most people here.
Well, I think the solution is quite simple. If people don't RP farm, they have nothing to worry about .
It is what it is.
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