Nemi wrote:You got a free relic on the back of a Hib relic Raid and bugged Server messages, congrats.

Hey Mr. Midgard,

- Albion did a Relic Raid at EU PRIMETIME on a FRIDAY!

- The Relic Raid was already announced in the IRC (thx to the spy / idi...)

- We met many smallman and groups with the zerg on the way to Grallahorn

- There were several Mids suiciding at the Relic Keep and could´ve told you

- Yes the doors were damaged, but they dropped sooooo quickly, it wouldnt have changed anything

- We were slowed down TRAMENDOUSLY by the HUGE bugs (couldnt pick up relic!)

- Blue told us live in Relic Keep to release ALL pets (Cabas? Sorcs? NECROS?) -> that weakened us HUGELY as well

- Still we had to wait MORE than THIRTY minutes in the relic keep, doing nothing but waiting to get steamrolled by Midgardians

- Midgardians STILL were able to spot us and saw us WITHOUT SPEED (ofc when Blue finally moved the Relic into the leaders inventory) moving

- And STILL you were unable to organize a defense


If everything worked as it should, we would´ve been gone even before any of the (few) Mids showed up to "defend".


So, Mr. Midgard, you are complaining but the only real thing is: GOD DAMN YOU SUCK!

GG Albs, well played.

Danny89 wrote:
- There were several Mids suiciding at the Relic Keep and could´ve told you


- And STILL you were unable to organize a defense

So, Mr. Midgard, you are complaining but the only real thing is: GOD DAMN YOU SUCK!

Okay, you seem to have issues with reading comprehension so I will assist you :

Relic messages told all players in Midgard that the relic was being returned automatically to the relic keep.
It doesn't matter that you encountered a couple Groups on the way. We were all aware of the Raid.

None of that matters when the entire realm is told by the relic server messages that the relics are safe in place or being returned in 1 hour.

You also discard my comment on an entire Mid Zerg camping at AMG as soon as we knew Albs were at the Relic keep but left due to broken server messages.

Do you understand ?

It is fine, I honestly do not care for losing the relic but your boorish and misplaced bravado is laughable.

Nemi wrote:You also discard my comment on an entire Mid Zerg camping at AMG as soon as we knew Albs were at the Relic keep but left due to broken server messages.

Do you understand ?

Well one FG of stealther was at the AMG, they saw no one passing by or even coming close from the MG.
The few smallman roaming around saw nothing aswell.

Are you sure you wasn't at HMG instead ?

I don't get how there is a bug where you can;t pick up relics all of a sudden when Mids did just fine picking them up. What changed between them picking them up and Alb that all of a sudden there's now a bug? We had top of the relic keep completely secured with everyone in combat and they still could.

Also I noticed when relics are picked up there is a full guard respawn. That happened late last night on our second try. Why did that not happen to Mids when they took our relic ANY of the times?

Just to set the record straight here:

(1) I stood on top of the relic for 35 min while Blue was fixing the bug and helping me pick it up. Literally standing on 3rd floor of Grallarhorn Keep staring at Merlins Staff while mids were not even there yet.
(2) Mids standing at AMG would have been BEHIND us by 30 min if the relic was not bugged, so any attempt to use the bugged message as justification for your loss of the relic is completely moot and only valid secondary to the bugged relic which kept us locked in the relic keep for an additional 35 min
(3) Stop complaining. We had 110 albs guarding me while we walked back and your cute little savage healer zergs would have wiped even if you were smart enough to wait for us despite the bugged relic system.

Your complaints are toxic and unwarranted. Thank you to Blue & Staff for fixing the bugged system. Looking forward to curbstomping more mid complainers.

Flyguy wrote:Just to set the record straight here:

(1) I stood on top of the relic for 35 min while Blue was fixing the bug and helping me pick it up. Literally standing on 3rd floor of Grallarhorn Keep staring at Merlins Staff while mids were not even there yet.
(2) Mids standing at AMG would have been BEHIND us by 30 min if the relic was not bugged, so any attempt to use the bugged message as justification for your loss of the relic is completely moot and only valid secondary to the bugged relic which kept us locked in the relic keep for an additional 35 min
(3) Stop complaining. We had 110 albs guarding me while we walked back and your cute little savage healer zergs would have wiped even if you were smart enough to wait for us despite the bugged relic system.

Your complaints are toxic and unwarranted. Thank you to Blue & Staff for fixing the bugged system. Looking forward to curbstomping more mid complainers.

Was there a full guard respawn when you picked the relic up?

Flyguy wrote:Just to set the record straight here:

(1) I stood on top of the relic for 35 min while Blue was fixing the bug and helping me pick it up. Literally standing on 3rd floor of Grallarhorn Keep staring at Merlins Staff while mids were not even there yet.
(2) Mids standing at AMG would have been BEHIND us by 30 min if the relic was not bugged, so any attempt to use the bugged message as justification for your loss of the relic is completely moot and only valid secondary to the bugged relic which kept us locked in the relic keep for an additional 35 min
(3) Stop complaining. We had 110 albs guarding me while we walked back and your cute little savage healer zergs would have wiped even if you were smart enough to wait for us despite the bugged relic system.

Your complaints are toxic and unwarranted. Thank you to Blue & Staff for fixing the bugged system. Looking forward to curbstomping more mid complainers.

I am not complaining and I made that clear.

I take issue with people's attitudes here nothing else.

Grats on the relic.

Danny89 wrote:

Nemi wrote:You got a free relic on the back of a Hib relic Raid and bugged Server messages, congrats.

Hey Mr. Midgard,

- Albion did a Relic Raid at EU PRIMETIME on a FRIDAY!

- The Relic Raid was already announced in the IRC (thx to the spy / idi...)

- We met many smallman and groups with the zerg on the way to Grallahorn

- There were several Mids suiciding at the Relic Keep and could´ve told you

- Yes the doors were damaged, but they dropped sooooo quickly, it wouldnt have changed anything

- We were slowed down TRAMENDOUSLY by the HUGE bugs (couldnt pick up relic!)

- Blue told us live in Relic Keep to release ALL pets (Cabas? Sorcs? NECROS?) -> that weakened us HUGELY as well

- Still we had to wait MORE than THIRTY minutes in the relic keep, doing nothing but waiting to get steamrolled by Midgardians

- Midgardians STILL were able to spot us and saw us WITHOUT SPEED (ofc when Blue finally moved the Relic into the leaders inventory) moving

- And STILL you were unable to organize a defense


If everything worked as it should, we would´ve been gone even before any of the (few) Mids showed up to "defend".


So, Mr. Midgard, you are complaining but the only real thing is: GOD DAMN YOU SUCK!

You understand that 90% of the midgard population has no desire to have all the relics. Which is why you met so little defenders in the first place.

That's actually hilarious. Mids hold all 6 relics and when there is finally a relic raid against them they are bugged and can't be picked up....

uh huh...

Keith Johnson wrote:That's actually hilarious. Mids hold all 6 relics and when there is finally a relic raid against them they are bugged and can't be picked up....

uh huh...

Relics weren't tested very extensively during the Uth 2 Beta so it's small wonder that there are some bugs left in the Relic keeps.

Zintair wrote:I don't get how there is a bug where you can;t pick up relics all of a sudden when Mids did just fine picking them up. What changed between them picking them up and Alb that all of a sudden there's now a bug?

Devs probably worked on the code to prevent the relic being looted through the floor, like the mids did with the hib relic.

Caldrian wrote:

Zintair wrote:I don't get how there is a bug where you can;t pick up relics all of a sudden when Mids did just fine picking them up. What changed between them picking them up and Alb that all of a sudden there's now a bug?

Devs probably worked on the code to prevent the relic being looted through the floor, like the mids did with the hib relic.

How comes there were relic raids and re-raids during beta without any issues?

silenced wrote:

Caldrian wrote:

Zintair wrote:I don't get how there is a bug where you can;t pick up relics all of a sudden when Mids did just fine picking them up. What changed between them picking them up and Alb that all of a sudden there's now a bug?

Devs probably worked on the code to prevent the relic being looted through the floor, like the mids did with the hib relic.

How comes there were relic raids and re-raids during beta without any issues?

Because in terms of coding a "working system" is not guaranteed to keep on working, especially if you change anything in the system.

Maiby in Beta no one realized the Relic was lootable trough the floor or transportable trough DF.
The Devs changed the system and they accidentily created bugs.

My question is "Why was there no controlled Relic Raid, planned and leaded by the devs, to create typical test scenarios in a live environment right AFTER they realized the Relic Keeps are still THAT buggy? (Looting trough walls and transport trough DF are no minor bugs )"

All you need are 4-5 groups of every realm.
Communication and 1 World Message stating that tests are done and the relics will be set back once the tests are finished.
I don't think any smart Mid would have complained about loosing the Relics for some hours.

No one knows before it happens, but I think locked Relics for the first 1-2 months with controlled test scenarios as stated above would have prevented:

- Doubts in the Devs neutrality
- Doubts in a working Relic System
- Big discussions about realm disbalances and realm advantages

Anyway. Devs, Keep on the good work! It is hard to keep everyone satisfied.

Greetings.

Let the mid's get their advantages the people who rolled mid have to live for the rest of their lives knowing that they are a bunch of cheats with no STONES.