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Postby Woosh » Nov 05, 2018 14:49

a cuck jumps to defend a fellow cuck. what a surprise, coming from a crooked teeth inbred limey :lol:
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Postby Roby5869 » Nov 05, 2018 17:28

kinthos wrote:Also who do you expect RipBro to kill when no-one else is going out in his playtime (NA peak)?


A few days ago Ripbro with 3 fga went to suicide at SF because inside our relic there was 1 fgm only and not even high RR. I think he should go play another game if he dodge the only chance he has to get a fight.
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Postby Roby5869 » Nov 05, 2018 19:10

fremster wrote:
Roby5869 wrote:Strangely enough (but not so much), mid weekly RPs have gone from 46% of the weeks we had all 6 relics to 50% of this week we only own one. So what's the new proposal to ri-balance this game? Decrease mid tank train damage?


Well if mid stopped running 16man as lowest number they may encounter enemies who will kill them thus the rp share will be more spread out. However as they only run 16man, they trash 90% of the server including romu zerg who is 24+ (made up of anyone who wants to rvr regardless of class, level or equipment).


Mids run 16 man when we have not the normal ppl we run with. Last night we runned 8 man and you sucked hard. But RvR it's a give and take, so maybe for you will work better tonite.
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Postby Kimharhi » Nov 05, 2018 19:37

Roby5869 wrote:
kinthos wrote:Also who do you expect RipBro to kill when no-one else is going out in his playtime (NA peak)?


A few days ago Ripbro with 3 fga went to suicide at SF because inside our relic there was 1 fgm only and not even high RR. I think he should go play another game if he dodge the only chance he has to get a fight.


Let's break down your argument here. If a force of greater numbers doesn't hit a force of lesser numbers at a relic keep, this implies that they are a pussy and should play another game. By your logic, the entire EU mid zerg are pussies and should play another game because they are too scared to hit excalibur. If Team America is too scared to AJ albs at a keep, does that make you even bigger pussies?

Let's explore another train of thought, shall we? Could it be that the EU mid zerg simply doesn't want to feed RPs? Interesting!

It sounds like Team America are the only ones upset. You guys remind me of British soldiers during the revolutionary war who complain of dishonorable guerilla tactics while your comrades die around you. Support your realm mates that I see on every night (Lhita, Headed, Ist, Haduken) rather than hiding. If your such badasses, come kill us in your frontier instead of unclaiming keeps while ****** on the forum.

PS: I enjoyed slaughtering your group like swine in DF Roby, hope you enjoyed the perf.
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Postby Spacebrah » Nov 05, 2018 20:08

Gil wrote:Midgard dominates the server during EU prime time (which seems to be the only time the forum warriors here care about) but since some of us moved from Mid to Alb, Alb is dominating NA prime time.


I appreciate your optimism, but I just don't see how your argument changes anything that I've said. By what measure are you assessing the realms performance? I've never spoken about a certain time of day in any argument I've made. I've done quite the opposite in fact. My arguments are based off long-period averages, not specific, isolated windows in time.

Even if Albion dominates NA prime time (which I'm not agreeing that it does), the weekly realm points take into account all hours of all days. So despite your domination of a certain time slot, as a whole, Midgard still far and above dominates the server. You could say Midgard dominates their time slot more than Albion dominates their time slot. That's a problem.
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Postby Spacebrah » Nov 05, 2018 20:11

Anytime a thoroughly logical argument is made, one of two things happen:

1. It is flat out ignored.
2. Others result to personal attacks and the argument gets lost in the thread.

Please stop giving attention to personal attacks and start giving attention to the arguments being made about game design and server performance.

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Postby fremster » Nov 05, 2018 20:27

Roby5869 wrote:
fremster wrote:
Roby5869 wrote:Strangely enough (but not so much), mid weekly RPs have gone from 46% of the weeks we had all 6 relics to 50% of this week we only own one. So what's the new proposal to ri-balance this game? Decrease mid tank train damage?


Well if mid stopped running 16man as lowest number they may encounter enemies who will kill them thus the rp share will be more spread out. However as they only run 16man, they trash 90% of the server including romu zerg who is 24+ (made up of anyone who wants to rvr regardless of class, level or equipment).


Mids run 16 man when we have not the normal ppl we run with. Last night we runned 8 man and you sucked hard. But RvR it's a give and take, so maybe for you will work better tonite.



Mids run 16 man when there is a fg out who can beat them as 8.

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Postby Stasis » Nov 06, 2018 00:33

Playing is as motivating as looking at pain dry.
Thanks mids! (i died in an rvr zone)
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Postby fremster » Nov 06, 2018 00:45

Stasis wrote:Playing is as motivating as looking at pain dry.
Thanks mids! (i died in an rvr zone)


Mid logic: since they cannot keep str relics (ignoring the fact they had them 90% of server life), they will run 2fg and give 0 f**ks.
Reality: mids can PVE empty keeps and meet albs sitting in excal. /shrug.

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Postby 00Fant » Nov 06, 2018 07:45

I realize that you do not want to believe or hear it now. But the announcement in the Allys is. Let the others the relics. I think that is the reson for not Attacking Relics atm.

By the way, the last few days in the rvr were very fun. Nice action. Thanks to Alb and Hib
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Postby Stasis » Nov 06, 2018 09:42

Its frustrating as hell. I got 3 evening each week to play and we struggle to make our 8man, they play Uthgard to 8man and rather play elsewhere or log and do other stuff than getting roflestumped by 16mids. Your sidecar will most likly win more than 50% of there fights when running alone anyway.
I my self cant stand keeps so its not an option to sit inside Excal looking at Netflix waiting for Inc.

When it goes so far that you start thinking about makeing char nr6....
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Postby kinthos » Nov 06, 2018 12:28

00Fant wrote:I realize that you do not want to believe or hear it now. But the announcement in the Allys is. Let the others the relics. I think that is the reson for not Attacking Relics atm.

By the way, the last few days in the rvr were very fun. Nice action. Thanks to Alb and Hib
:grin:


If thats true - thanks for realising the best course for better action. I've only been saying it for months, but it's good if we got there finally. Afterall, all Mids play with godlike skill anyway, so you don't need relics!
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Postby Medyci » Nov 06, 2018 13:35

Roby5869 wrote:Mids run 16 man when we have not the normal ppl we run with. Last night we runned 8 man and you sucked hard. But RvR it's a give and take, so maybe for you will work better tonite.


Strange logic in my eyes. Why don't you run 8man as a PUG as well then? It's much more fun then just ganking 8mans with twice as much people. RVR would be way more interesting if there were like 2-3 seperate Mid-Groups instead of one 8man and one 16slot.

Albs and Hibs are always running PUG, since there is no stable community like you guys have.

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Postby Valfar » Nov 06, 2018 14:38

Stasis wrote:Its frustrating as hell. I got 3 evening each week to play and we struggle to make our 8man, they play Uthgard to 8man and rather play elsewhere or log and do other stuff than getting roflestumped by 16mids. Your sidecar will most likly win more than 50% of there fights when running alone anyway.
I my self cant stand keeps so its not an option to sit inside Excal looking at Netflix waiting for Inc.

When it goes so far that you start thinking about makeing char nr6....


It is what it is...action-reaction. There are 3 mid groups who prefer to run as 8 but we run into Romu zerg or 3-4fgh on certain days and then we merge. German alliance always runs as zerg, it's more a social event. Look, uthgard1 had some honorable players and a lot of 8v8 and 1v1 was really respected, here this is not the case. A lot of people who pretend to be innocent 8v8ers here on forum helped the zerg which was already 4fg strong against our 2fg, after our 2fg let that 8man pass us and didn't chase them.

So yeah, I completely ignore this finger pointing crap, because I know nobody is innocent and I just laugh. I understand your frustration though, happened to us too. Yesterday we ran as a 6man and somehow we avoided the zerg and got some 6v6 and 6v7 fights somehow, it was nice. I think if more people would play, there would be a lot of every kind of action for everyone(frontiers are big enough), but it's easier to cry on forum...again, not talking about you. It is what it is, takes time to fix things.
It is what it is.

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Postby Stasis » Nov 06, 2018 15:15

You smash the alb zerg as 16man so its not strange you run like that but its possible to break up when you see a 8man, atm you make ppl log do other stuff.


what about running in a diffrent zone as zerg and do 8man? should be possible to tell with killing some guards or give some deathspam.


latly we run for 30-40 min looking for ppl at normal places and all of a sudden we get inc and adds out of nowere. sure is hit and miss days :)
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