Stasis wrote:You smash the alb zerg as 16man so its not strange you run like that but its possible to break up when you see a 8man, atm you make ppl log do other stuff.


what about running in a diffrent zone as zerg and do 8man? should be possible to tell with killing some guards or give some deathspam.


latly we run for 30-40 min looking for ppl at normal places and all of a sudden we get inc and adds out of nowere. sure is hit and miss days

I hear you, it's just that zerg is out every night. I mean, we ran as 6 yesterday in emain.

This is a better picture than it's been. Although Mid are massively dominating at EU peak time (as discussed) - there is at least activity throughout the day. Whatever opinion you may have about this due to it just being keep takes or whatever - it's better for the server if there is a constant sense of action. This chart shows this is happening even at low points now:



Data taken from: https://daoc.scheffel.it/ - scroll to the bottom of the main page!

Zerg out every night is a bad excuse, if we want we change zone faster and they not intrested in the 8man anyway. Think its more someone that wanna farm the rr3 bad setup grps for rps/hour instead of fighting 8man looking for 8man

Look, we all know something is jacked up with the server. Maybe it is mid style growth rates or some kind of formulae but Mid melee out DPSes everything else by a large margin. Nothing can be proved (short of the tundra exploit) so just have to accept it. BOHICA

Stasis wrote:Think its more someone that wanna farm the rr3 bad setup grps for rps/hour instead of fighting 8man looking for 8man

This.

Thanks for the fight in Sursbrooke , Fremster ! you were worth 7800 rps ! 8 vs 37

Torgo wrote:Look, we all know something is jacked up with the server. Maybe it is mid style growth rates or some kind of formulae but Mid melee out DPSes everything else by a large margin. Nothing can be proved (short of the tundra exploit) so just have to accept it. BOHICA

Care to elaborate on the so called exploit? It's a 10 point RA and the only time it did massive massive damage was when combined with vendo(another ability on a timer) and you also needed a lucky crit. Nobody ever showed screenshots when a zerker got only a crit of 7-8 dmg and on top of that you should not be getting caught that often by a zerker on a patch level with no charge. It's still a style you can block, absorb with a bubble etc. The only evidence(afaik) of Tundra being broken is that they found some old comment on forums back in the day on how Tundra is a useless ability. So what, people back in the day also said Cabalist was a useless class and so on.

So you have to waste 10 points, you can only use it once every 10 mins and you have to combine it with vendo and get super lucky on a maximum crit with the slowest weapon you have and wow, you one shoted a caster...epic. Again, it can still get blocked and absorbed. I always run AF charge on my healer and back when I was aug I had almost 2k hp, I was often times 1 small hit away from death after 3 shots from an armsman and that's on a class with more hp and chain wearing + they're using regular styles and no RAs.

I repeat, only idiots and really, really bad players look for excuses in Tundra and the people who think Tundra and not PLAYING TIME got someone realm ranks are paranoid schizos and loonies of the worst kind.

Satiah wrote:https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=43357

These are uthgard screenshots, and there are no screenshots or evidence from back in the day to dispute that this is not working as intended, just someone saying that the style is useless. Again, a 10 point 10 min re-use RA on a CASTER with the slowest weapon, you have to use vendo and get maximum or close to maximum crit and on top of that it can be blocked, absorbed etc.

Am I supposed to complain when an Armsman whose maximum crit can only be 50% of his dmg hits me for 600+ on a fully buffed healer with AF, and he's using only a positional or anytime style? At least zerkers have to spend 10 points for a 10 min re-use ability, use vendo, get lucky etc. Anyway, ridiculous discussion. It is what it is, peace.

Was a buged RA, what are we talking about here? Got fixed, that is how it works.

Woosh wrote:Thanks for the fight in Sursbrooke , Fremster ! you were worth 7800 rps ! 8 vs 37

I hope we manage to form an 8man to night, you willing to come as 8?

Stasis wrote:

Woosh wrote:Thanks for the fight in Sursbrooke , Fremster ! you were worth 7800 rps ! 8 vs 37

I hope we manage to form an 8man to night, you willing to come as 8?

we slayed the alb zerg twice as a 8 man, why do you ask if i'm willing to come as a 8 when most of the time i find your cleric in the zerg ? do you actually think you will do better with a 8 instead of 35+ ? are you trying to make yourself not look like a zerglet ? yesterday we ran as a 6 and we still didnt lose one fight and people still talk about being zerged by 16 man here. i wonder if you guys say all that ****** just to wind people up or you literally can't tell the difference between a fg or more. also i find it super funny how the most vocal whiners around here (rofl, you know who you are, thanks for the rps) are always in the Romu zerg - and to no surprise, getting kicked in the teeth even when bringing triple or quadruple the numbers we have. how are you going to explain that ? its the relics ? is it the high rr ? its the tundra ? what else is left to blame ? i am very curious about the latest theories regarding the imbalance

My cleric runs with Black Ghost or GPA nothing else, if not i im on my inf. last 3 nights i played we forced to join Excal defense (we always start as 8 ) due to 16mids running together.

GPA havent formed a full grp atleast on my play nights for 7 days if not more. Im not even part of GPA.

And farming a zerg of albs with one or two members of a guild doesnt mean twat.Not like they can carry the zerg anyway.
and for the members that play more then the rest, what you think they should do? Solo?

pweet wrote:Was a buged RA, what are we talking about here? Got fixed, that is how it works.

No evidence was ever provided that it was a bug, just the forum whining got them to change it. Again, Armsmen/Warriors/Heroes can easily do 500 dmg on an assassin with a normal hit sometimes if they use a decent style. If they get maximum crit, that's around 750. Why on earth should a zerker not be able to land a 600-800 base damage hit by using a special TEN MINUTE RE-USE AND 10 RA STYLE THAT CAN BE BLOCKED OR ABSORBED ON A ****** CASTER with the slowest possible weapon and a super lucky crit in vendo which only zerker can get is beyond me.

Again, the whole discussion is a joke because nobody got their realm ranks because of Tundra and only morons actually cry about that.

Woosh wrote:

Stasis wrote:

Woosh wrote:Thanks for the fight in Sursbrooke , Fremster ! you were worth 7800 rps ! 8 vs 37

I hope we manage to form an 8man to night, you willing to come as 8?

we slayed the alb zerg twice as a 8 man, why do you ask if i'm willing to come as a 8 when most of the time i find your cleric in the zerg ? do you actually think you will do better with a 8 instead of 35+ ? are you trying to make yourself not look like a zerglet ? yesterday we ran as a 6 and we still didnt lose one fight and people still talk about being zerged by 16 man here. i wonder if you guys say all that ****** just to wind people up or you literally can't tell the difference between a fg or more. also i find it super funny how the most vocal whiners around here (rofl, you know who you are, thanks for the rps) are always in the Romu zerg - and to no surprise, getting kicked in the teeth even when bringing triple or quadruple the numbers we have. how are you going to explain that ? its the relics ? is it the high rr ? its the tundra ? what else is left to blame ? i am very curious about the latest theories regarding the imbalance

How can you say you never lost a single fight? We all get to see the deathspam. Clearly you lost at least ONE fight in HW lastnight. I saw the death spam from your whole group.