If you run with BMs they will do the backsnare anyways.

I don't think there were slash spears in 1.65. If there are slash spears however, celtic spear is probably the better choice.
But if there are no slash spears then the 50lw 6spear 10blades 50shield rest parry spec is the best one without a doubt.

For the race, Firbolg or Celt is acceptable aswell. On a non toa server quick has alot more influence with celerity only being available for mid, 17% haste is most likely the highest one you'll get. If you face grps with red PBT, or get haste/dq debuffed then more quick is always nice to have, however Firbolg is still good, but there are pros for being Celt aswell.

In terms of stat effectiveness lurikeen is definitely worse than the above, but you should never underestimate a small lurikeens ability remain unseen to rvr enemies - you'd be surprised how often you get earth pets vs albs or NS as a Hero or how often you can slam someone out of position just because they don't see you on inc or not recognize that you are a shieldtank.

About the RF armor : It is bad to permanently wear studded on a Hero, however, if you want to raise your effectiveness then it is not a bad thing to switch scale parts for reinforced ones infight if you are being hit by Slash =



Thanks for reading and using this thread, greez.

I've got some questions.

Plan on starting with Bard (43/16/47) in 2.0, and was looking at RAs to start with.

For 5L0, I was thinking:

AM
Purge
MCL 1
LW 1
Tireless 1
Aug Acuity 3 (precursor to MotA for cast speed)
Wild Healing 1 (since there is no crit heals without it, even a 5% chance is a nice addition for 1 point)

After that I would start with a few levels of Mastery of the Arts for cast speed. 30 minute timers are rough, but AM and Purge are pretty much must haves on Bard I would think since it's likely to be the only demezzer in the group. Is a mana regen pot viable with whatever timers will be for 1.65 or is Serenity warranted?

I never played the stealth game when Uthgard 1.0 was around, but I want to give it a go in 2.0. Is having a full compliment of buff pots an absolute necessity or would I be able to get by with say spec charges and maybe haste and/or str?

AM is a waste of RA points, ~ 100-120 HP every 1.5 sec on a 30 min timer vs old RA burst fights - hurray!

old RA AM should be uber good. Don't remember the exact values, but a lot better than AM 3 with new RA. But yeah, still 30 minute timer suxx. But at least I win button every 30 min.

Celteen wrote:AM is a waste of RA points, ~ 100-120 HP every 1.5 sec on a 30 min timer vs old RA burst fights - hurray!

lol!

So ditching AM seems like a good idea, since it is 14 points. Maybe for much higher RR I would consider it. And after some more reading I'm gonna try 43/33/37 (although 43/21/44 with 10 in blades for quick side snare seems cool too) instead. Not having MoF sucks, but I don't think resists should be too bad from what I remember on Uthgard 1.0.

So for rr5:

Aug Acuity 3
LW 1
MotA 3
Serenity 2
Tireless 1
WH 1
MCL 1
Purge

Points better spent elsewhere?

Celteen wrote:AM is a waste of RA points, ~ 100-120 HP every 1.5 sec on a 30 min timer vs old RA burst fights - hurray!

Please do not spread wrong facts, Ameliorating Melodies Heals for ~300 Hp every 1.5 seconds at 1,8k range at patch level 1.65.

It is true however, that AM is not good vs Burst damage. You won't outheal any assist Train solely with AM. Nonetheless it is still a very good RA that can easily turn a fight on its own.

I WIll give you a rundown what I would do on my Bard
3L5 :
Lw1
AM
Purge

From Here on there are 2 ways. The first one will force you to respec at 4L6
3L6 -> Dex1
3L9 -> Dex2
4L2 -> Mcl1
4L3 ->Toughness 1
4L4 & 4L5 -> avoidance of magic/aug con/aug acu
4L6 -> Respec to :
Lw1
AM
Purge
Acu3
Mota1
4L9 -> Mota2

If you don't want to respec

3L5 Purge AM Lw1
3L6-> Acu1
3L9-> Acu2
4L5->Acu3
4L6 Mota1
4L9 Mota2

At 5L9 You should be playing with what I would define as the "core ras" for Bards
Purge
AM
LW1
Acu3
Mota3
Dex2

Serenity is a pretty much useless ra, so is tireless. At 6L2 you could pick up Mcl, but if you manage your powerpool properly you should not run oom as a bard, aslong as you remember to use powerpots early infight and don't spam spells unnecessary.

I hope that covers all questions, if not feel free to ask again. Thanks for reading and using this thread

Just because it heals 300on the other server doesn't mean it is true

Nayru wrote:

Celteen wrote:~300 every 1.5s says the mighty 1.3.2 charplaner.

That's wrong. It's 100 every 1.5 seconds for 30 seconds, so overall you and your group are healed for up to 2000hp each.

Blue wrote:http://www.etaew.net/daocdb/spell.php?id=3630
(ist die alte RA)

There was an old RA video with ~100 heals as well.

Celteen wrote:

Blue wrote:http://www.etaew.net/daocdb/spell.php?id=3630
(ist die alte RA)

There was an old RA video with ~100 heals as well.

That's already an incorrect information because the range hasn't been 2k at 1.65. I will get an official statement to clarify the value that AM will have and inform you guys

Well till further proof i would say Celteen/Blue are right and your claim that Celteen is spreading false information is wrong

pweet wrote:Well till further proof i would say Celteen/Blue are right and your claim that Celteen is spreading false information is wrong

No one is right until we have clear information or a running uthgard 2.0 with a bard that has the ra specced
However if ~100 per tic is right then I apologize for spreading false information

Nef Melody wrote:

pweet wrote:Well till further proof i would say Celteen/Blue are right and your claim that Celteen is spreading false information is wrong

No one is right until we have clear information or a running uthgard 2.0 with a bard that has the ra specced
However if ~100 per tic is right then I apologize for spreading false information

As much as i appreciate this thread made by Nef, as scared I´m about what we ´ll get when we launch Uth 2.0. This is a core issue and was one reason I wanted to have an open beta as soon as possible that ppl with big daoc knowledge like Nef have the chance to test performance and content of the shard to gather informations and suggestions for the staff.

What ´s happening when we launch the beta and find many things that are not running correct or implemented wrong? We ´ll have to wait for another 2 years so it can be fixed before the final relaunch? Staff is doing a great job as far I can judge about, but I ´m not sure if they have the manpower and focussed knowledge to gather the informations about the 1.65 setup all alone. There are so many things that have been changed by later patches, I guess it ´s quite impossible to research 100% of the old data or think of all fixes.

@ current topic AM
I´m pretty sure the AM healed 300 hp per tick, I played a bard these days and when I used this RA the group was for few seconds godlike and there was much QQ about this imbah RA.

I ´m also certain that AM was healing the bard too in these days. 100 per tiick can ´t be because you won ´t even notice an effect when getting hard damage. When AM was used nearly nobody died in fights when it was running. I ´m pretty sure that was the reason it got nerfed later (no heal for bard, lower value) .

But like Nef said, nobody knows what Uth 2.0 will look like. Afaik staff don ´t put things in/change when they have no proof or better said,- trustable source.

Therefore staff,- please start the beta as soon as possible please so we can check asap and help research missing/wrong things.