joshisanonymous wrote:As much as people like to make fun of it, we simply need zergs. DAoC was fun back at this patch level even for casuals because casuals would regularly join zergs, but so far, at least in Mid, I haven't seen any zerg leaders appear except during relic raids. One thing that might help make this happen more often is actually using RvR CGs for intel. I'm not sure if this happens in Hib or Alb, but Mid uses a BG for relic raids and otherwise does absolutely nothing for intel. Having a fairly constant CG open would make it much easier to naturally form into a zerg, it would help realmmates to quickly zone in on enemy groups, and it would help solos/smallman groups to avoid larger groups or at least feel like their deaths weren't in vain when they get run over because they can easily report the location to everyone in the frontier.

Jalez wrote:We could run BD's yea, that might work, anyone know one?

I'm one.

I'm surprised to read this, though, as the common perception seems to be that BDs are just gimp RMs that no one wants in their group. I'm more into solo play so I leveled this toon without much worry about getting groups at 50, but it's nice to know that maybe some people think I'm needed in groups.

EDIT: Also, I just remembered an interesting exchange from last night where someone from a Mid 8 man messaged me after I got run over by Buds while solo. They wanted to know where that group was so as to avoid them. There were maybe 4-5 Mid 8 man groups running at this time and nothing else, they were all dying to Buds, and from what I'm told, this is the case most nights, and yet they didn't want to just run together to wipe the group that kept beating them. In fact, while sitting at MPK, one of those 8 man groups was complaining to another for "adding". I mean, they're both sitting at MPK, so clearly they both failed anyway, but the reaction of one of them was to ****** at the other (and presumably go get wiped again by Buds).

Jalez wrote:
Haha. Yea the main issue with Mids vs Albs this patch level is interrupts, 1 frikin Minstrel can lock down Mids entire backline with he and his red con pet if hes not dealt with on inc, then you got 10 Theurg pets out and 1-2 cabbie pets plus a Sorc pet, this is why "4-5 Mid groups" keep dying to Buds most nights. yes Buds are very good players, no one is saying they are not, but cmon man you cannot tell me that is balanced.

They just purge the RM's NS and I've yet to see any RM's on the server be able to clear those pets with any consistency. We've went the 3 healer route and seem to do very well vs Hibs, just the certain Alb pet spam groups are crazy.

MotaroReloaded wrote:I dont mind the 8 vs 8 elitist..no1 is stoping you fro mcreating a grp and going into RvR zone, what i dont like is adding on a grp vs grp fight, 8 ppl kiling soloers .. shows no character or skill .

Looney wrote:
Final Note:
8v8 community is killing the server to the point when they will just be fighting each-other in a month or so.

Lots of love
T

mins2340 wrote:I'm a daoc newb, only been playing since the launch date, never played live. I heard that adding was frowned upon, so in the 4ish months I've played I've never done it. In that same time, I can't think of a single instance where a fg decided not to chase me. Yesterday alone I had 2 different occasions where fgs added when I was engaged in a 1v1 fight. Not just baiting either, both occasions were a fg of mids rolling us while I was fighting solo hibs.

So yea, if you're like me and don't know whether or not to extend courtesy to your fellow players, I suggest you don't, because 99% of them wont return the favor.

thomasmgp wrote:I dont understand how its even possible for 8v8 to ruin the server. If you only play with 3 or 4 people then just follow another FG around and add on all their fights. Who the hell cares if they get mad its not like they can actually do anything to you. Hell get 20 people together and run around adding on every fight. Again what can they do to you other than get really salty and maybe call you names.