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Postby Shenyen » Aug 29, 2023 18:31

Sunday, which was still „yesterday“ when I wrote that.
Got a video and a chat log of me jumping down behind the keep to smite „Rudra“, though Szarth got the deathblow.
You might remember that or you don’t and somebody else played your account during that encounter? But there’s probably a rule against that, right?

And I don’t know if Maglan got a temp ban when he (delay)RP-farmed and broke a bunch of other server rules when he pulled an Alb border keep guard to all the Hib-owned keeps in the Alb frontier to flip them back to Albion.
I just know for a fact that he did that (screenshots and no Alb in our frontiers) and HEARD that he got temp banned for that.
I don’t really care, it’s just funny that he‘s still playing and was even being defended as just being bored by Hibs.

And the one time Bolg got flipped from Hib to Alb with no Alb in the zone: i don’t know for a fact that he was behind that, but what a coincidence that i run into Maglan and iirc Shanulfia when I went there to check.

So hell No, I won‘t apologize! What would you even want me to apologize for?
Because of somebody that deserved a (temp) ban but was not actually banned?
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Postby Rudra » Aug 29, 2023 18:50

You claim things from bans that aren't true, you slander people and don't have the decency to apologize?
How poor.......
how about you if i said you cheat and use exploids because i saw there and have no proof?
I already know where I stood and that many Albs jumped after me, so it's not forbidden to stand where I stood. I got there legally, but wasn't that your necro who can set gt's in the lord room without us being able to attack his pet because the distance between the two is way too big?
Others would also deserve a ban, but they don't get it either.

@Allyk Romu got a pm from me.
I can't comment on that either because I didn't set any shrooms myself that day.

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Postby Allyk123 » Aug 29, 2023 19:37

If this was a boxing match, the referee would call it to Shenyen.

Rudra has had a nightmare on this thread...... :lol:

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Postby Abydos » Aug 29, 2023 21:44

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Postby Shenyen » Aug 30, 2023 01:21

@Rudra
It was mentioned that Maglan/Golani was banned for what he did.
I have no idea if it was true or not, since that forum doesn't get any more posts, even though we know people got banned since the last post to the Bans-board.

But: The thing WHY I think he was banned, that DID happen!
See: https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=48062&start=18

On June 20th, 2020, Maglan kited border keep guards in the Alb frontier to Hib-owned keeps in Pennine mountains, got the guards close enough to the Hib-keeplord and when they both aggro'ed each other, the border keep guard killed the lord, thereby flipping to keep to Albion.
No Albs where in Pennine Mountains while the majority of the "keeptakes" happened and when I went to Boldiam to check, i witnessed the final moments an Alb border keep guard and Maglan running around the keep, closed outer door and then it flipped to Albion.

On April 17th of this year, Dun Bolg also flipped from lvl 1 Hibernia to Albion, even though there were no /who-Albs in Breifine, with only 2 anon-Albs and at least one of them swore that he wasn't in Breifine at that time.
I went to Breifine to check and shortly after entering Breifine from Emain, I run into Maglan and Shanulfia.
Wenn das ein Zufall ist, dann fress ich nen Besen!

There's probably a bunch of rules broken that way, I suppose it broke the rule 2.6 - abuse of bugs and exploits, since there's no way that's intended behavior of the game. 2.7/2.8 - assisting the enemy realm to gain more keeps.
2.11 - Any violations to rules 1.1 - 2.10 will result in account suspension or termination.

I'd add that it's a form of griefing, since by flipping the keep to Albion, there were less keeps for Albion to take and iirc there was only one other lvl 1 Hib-keep in Hibernia left, all the others were lvl8+ or similar.
Thereby forcing Albs to attack specifics keeps, where it'd be easier for Hibernia to defend.
And as the way to do that - Hibs flipping Hib-keeps to Alb, thereby reducing Alb choices - was obviously against the rules, that action was like a severe (!!!) case of breaking rule 2.6.
You can limit Alb choices by not retaking any keeps, forcing Albs to attack the lvl 9 ones - like Hib is doing right now - but you can't give away YOU keeps by abusing bugs to limit Alb choices.
That's not "lame", that's A S S H O L E behavior and breaking rules that say "If these rules are broken => (temp) ban"

So: Ban Golani if he hasn't been banned yet!

You want to ban cabalists, you want to ban necromancers (who use a class skill, like you like to use animist class skills and Hibs recently defended Dun Crauchon FROM OUTSIDE behind the keep by casting shrooms in the tower windows) - so ban everybody, start with Golani!

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus!
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Postby Shenyen » Aug 30, 2023 01:22

meh, forum broke, leading to triple post
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Postby Shenyen » Aug 30, 2023 01:23

meh, forum broke, leading to triple post
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Postby golani » Aug 30, 2023 02:48

Never been banned. Wtf did you get that from? And keep flipping? No idea what you're on about, obviously you're trolling at this point. But it's nice to know I have a huge fan.

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Postby Spivo » Aug 30, 2023 06:30

When I leave my kids alone in the car, they are also 90% gonna be fighting when I get back, and when they do, it's 100% certain that it's the other one who started.
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Postby virulent- » Aug 30, 2023 06:40

Shenyen wrote:@Rudra
It was mentioned that Maglan/Golani was banned for what he did.
I have no idea if it was true or not, since that forum doesn't get any more posts, even though we know people got banned since the last post to the Bans-board.

But: The thing WHY I think he was banned, that DID happen!
See: https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=48062&start=18

On June 20th, 2020, Maglan kited border keep guards in the Alb frontier to Hib-owned keeps in Pennine mountains, got the guards close enough to the Hib-keeplord and when they both aggro'ed each other, the border keep guard killed the lord, thereby flipping to keep to Albion.
No Albs where in Pennine Mountains while the majority of the "keeptakes" happened and when I went to Boldiam to check, i witnessed the final moments an Alb border keep guard and Maglan running around the keep, closed outer door and then it flipped to Albion.

On April 17th of this year, Dun Bolg also flipped from lvl 1 Hibernia to Albion, even though there were no /who-Albs in Breifine, with only 2 anon-Albs and at least one of them swore that he wasn't in Breifine at that time.
I went to Breifine to check and shortly after entering Breifine from Emain, I run into Maglan and Shanulfia.
Wenn das ein Zufall ist, dann fress ich nen Besen!

There's probably a bunch of rules broken that way, I suppose it broke the rule 2.6 - abuse of bugs and exploits, since there's no way that's intended behavior of the game. 2.7/2.8 - assisting the enemy realm to gain more keeps.
2.11 - Any violations to rules 1.1 - 2.10 will result in account suspension or termination.

I'd add that it's a form of griefing, since by flipping the keep to Albion, there were less keeps for Albion to take and iirc there was only one other lvl 1 Hib-keep in Hibernia left, all the others were lvl8+ or similar.
Thereby forcing Albs to attack specifics keeps, where it'd be easier for Hibernia to defend.
And as the way to do that - Hibs flipping Hib-keeps to Alb, thereby reducing Alb choices - was obviously against the rules, that action was like a severe (!!!) case of breaking rule 2.6.
You can limit Alb choices by not retaking any keeps, forcing Albs to attack the lvl 9 ones - like Hib is doing right now - but you can't give away YOU keeps by abusing bugs to limit Alb choices.
That's not "lame", that's A S S H O L E behavior and breaking rules that say "If these rules are broken => (temp) ban"

So: Ban Golani if he hasn't been banned yet!

You want to ban cabalists, you want to ban necromancers (who use a class skill, like you like to use animist class skills and Hibs recently defended Dun Crauchon FROM OUTSIDE behind the keep by casting shrooms in the tower windows) - so ban everybody, start with Golani!

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus!



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Postby Shenyen » Aug 30, 2023 08:10

Golani, we both know what you did and I explained it well enough for a brain-dead to understand, so don’t act like you have no idea.
I even provided a link with some screenshots.

Drastic, you still not interested in ever playing your minstrel again or is there another reason we never saw that toon again after your ranger was seen standing on keep roofs?
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Postby Rudra » Aug 30, 2023 17:44

Shenyen a good description, that's exactly how keepguards work.
I can pull them again and again and pull them away from the keep, that also works with relict guards.
This is neither a bug nor an exploit, they witch aggro as soon as they are attacked or the puller is healed. I've seen an Albion champion get pulled from a level 8 keep to a level 1 hib keep even though we were trying to deff.
Therefore, point 2.6 of the Rules does not apply.
In the past, mobs were drawn to the border guards and they killed them so that you got loot.
That was fixed as far as I know.
Rules 2.7 and 2.8 were not violated either, as you do not get Rp for changing these keeps.
I think it's more your personal feelings that you are reflecting here and no violations of the rules of the server.

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Postby Allyk123 » Aug 30, 2023 20:06

Rudra wrote:Shenyen a good description, that's exactly how keepguards work.
I can pull them again and again and pull them away from the keep, that also works with relict guards.
This is neither a bug nor an exploit, they witch aggro as soon as they are attacked or the puller is healed. I've seen an Albion champion get pulled from a level 8 keep to a level 1 hib keep even though we were trying to deff.
Therefore, point 2.6 of the Rules does not apply.
In the past, mobs were drawn to the border guards and they killed them so that you got loot.
That was fixed as far as I know.
Rules 2.7 and 2.8 were not violated either, as you do not get Rp for changing these keeps.
I think it's more your personal feelings that you are reflecting here and no violations of the rules of the server.


Border keep guards are not meant to be anywhere else in the map, hence their high level and deliberate placement.

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Postby Shenyen » Aug 30, 2023 20:22

Rudra, please explain to me how it is NOT RP-farming if Realm A takes a keep, gets RPs for it.
Then they take a border keep guard from Realm B and pull it to the keep to flip it back from Realm A to Realm B.
They won't get RPs for that, BUT now comes the exploit part: The keep is now owned by Realm B and Realm A can take it again, rinse and repeat.
One could - I am not saying that anyone did, but one COULD! - do that all night long!
Pick a keep close to borders, like Renaris or Hurbury, take as a Hib. Then pull a Snowdonia/Sauvage-border keep guard to the keep it flip it back to Albion, then take the keep again for Hibernia, take another border keep guard to flip it back to Albion, take the keep for Hibernia, take another border....

And when Maglan took all the keeps in Pennine Mountains that way, Animists were still able to shroom a lord room from outside the keep, so (NOBODY DID THAT, BUT IT WOULD HAVE WORKED!!!) there would be no need to reram or something.

HOW can something that would allow that not be breaking a crap-ton of rules?
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Postby golani » Aug 30, 2023 21:09

You really think I would do all that effort for what 150 rps? Believe it or not, hibs could care less about keep rps.

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