Galandriel3 wrote:it hurt to click the like button but i had to laugh too hard

i appreciate the effort, here, have one back

Oswaldo wrote:

Outphaze wrote:

falscheneun wrote:2/10 euro bashing attempt, ive seen better

Haha it wasn't a bash - there's just a lot of euros here that didn't play genesis and they don't really have any idea what old RAs are like, whereas lots us have spent over a year playing old RAs on Genesis and know what to expect.

Yes because the implementation of old ra's on genesis was 100 % correct!

Whether or not casters are viable on uthgard has more to do with mechanics, not so much whether RAs are working correctly. I never said Genesis was perfect, merely that it offers a glimpse of what we'll likely see on Uthgard.

Well that is very interesting, please tell me more.

Best PBAE bomb group setups all three realms?

Even if it's not going to beat a well oiled hybrid 8-man, it's a hell of a lot of fun and something that I have only really seen in DAoC.

BullMoose wrote:Best PBAE bomb group setups all three realms?

Even if it's not going to beat a well oiled hybrid 8-man, it's a hell of a lot of fun and something that I have only really seen in DAoC.

Mid. AOE stun and intercept pets. cant get any better.

Outphaze wrote:

Oswaldo wrote:Yes because the implementation of old ra's on genesis was 100 % correct!

Whether or not casters are viable on uthgard has more to do with mechanics, not so much whether RAs are working correctly. I never said Genesis was perfect, merely that it offers a glimpse of what we'll likely see on Uthgard.

Mechanics were even worse on genesis

Kaziera wrote:

BullMoose wrote:Best PBAE bomb group setups all three realms?

Even if it's not going to beat a well oiled hybrid 8-man, it's a hell of a lot of fun and something that I have only really seen in DAoC.

Mid. AOE stun and intercept pets. cant get any better.

Are you talking about PvE ? Hib is the only viable realm for bomb setups because they can debuff nuke aswell

I'm talking about RvR -- knowing full well that the group would go down to many of thee suggested set ups listed in this post.

Specific group comps?

BullMoose wrote:I'm talking about RvR -- knowing full well that the group would go down to many of thee suggested set ups listed in this post.

Specific group comps?

I was talking to the one who suggested Mid, Mid might be best bombgrp for pve but quite bad in RvR, hib bombgrp could actually be competitive alltho not top tier

Hib bombgrp

Bard
Bard
Druid
Druid
Hero
Eld (splitspec for yellow ns or full mana)
ench
ench

2nd bard could be replaced by Bm/Ench/Menta

whats everyones opinion on the infamous double bard setups? really looking forward to see how many 8mans will run that kind on uth

Will be standard.just too good

pweet wrote:Will be standard.just too good

I remember at least 1 hib 8man doing that on Genesis launch and then quickly changing it up.

I think I'd rather have a 3rd druid with high Nature for instant aoe roots. (shrug)

2 Bards is most likely the way to go, but every hib grp can work with 1 technically. At lower ranks 2 Bard setups might not be as good as with higher ranks because you loose a potential dmg slot.

Nezix wrote:I remember at least 1 hib 8man doing that on Genesis launch and then quickly changing it up.

I think I'd rather have a 3rd druid with high Nature for instant aoe roots. (shrug)

I don't think you're talking about us but I'll bite anyway.

I pushed for us to run double bard on Genesis. It was a mistake.

At some point after we had been running 2x bard for a bit we were discussing it in vent and I said, an AFK warden with PBT would be more useful than the second bard. It was that useless.

Anyway, we dropped the 2nd bard for another tank shortly after RR5.

Credit to GP for figuring out that the 3 druid comp.

We also ran the 3 druid setup later and found it to be extremely good. I think it's the strongest setup until about R7 when a case can be made for casters on hib.

GP 3x druid tanker was probably the hardest fight from hibs, but I always remember being most scared of Shao because once their casters got moc, you could just randomly lose 2 people in a few seconds.

The caveat is, if you're running 1 bard in a tank group, the guy has to be an absolute ripper or you'll feel it.

2 bards can help cover up the holes if your primary bard isn't that great.

Ya we went in initially planning on doing 2 bards, but that Genesis Jankiness put the nix on that.

Spoiler Alert most of the time it wasnt a 3rd Druid, it was a Warden that people thought was a Druid