10 might be enough. Its hard to tell for some boss mobs due to luck.

(you can make free accounts for 14 days without even a valid email, log on pendragon)

Abydos wrote:10 might be enough. Its hard to tell for some boss mobs due to luck.

(you can make free accounts for 14 days without even a valid email, log on pendragon)

Possible to make a snipetool totorial to how you reg and do it. Will pendragon work same as live when it come to repop?


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I don't know what snipetool is.

Yes pendragon works the same as far as respawn

Snipe tool is just a tool to take pictures instead of croping screenshots for makeing instructions


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Stasis wrote:
Not stacked affect balance.

Mid use 1 bag slot where i use 10 and at lower quality (lower pluss to str/con )

Yeah i find that affect balance. I can carry less other stuff


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Not stacked is how it was in 1.65 however. I ask mainly to take your point as very few people have realized that it DOES influence victory conditions. That being said, this has not been ruled out internally (However, it won't be 10 or 100 - i.e. bottles/barrels - those will never see a return)

1.65 live had buff bots. Buff potions were largely unused.

As this server has changed a primary condition to the buff situation, it also must reevaluate its other buffing options like charges and potions.

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Stasis wrote:Think we killed Evern 7+ times without out see the bracer drop, and when it finaly do you have to win the damn lotto.... ppl willing to pay 75-100p for this shows how stupid the situation is. And is insane unfair.


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try ring of the butcher:)

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Stasis wrote:Think we killed Evern 7+ times without out see the bracer drop, and when it finaly do you have to win the damn lotto.... ppl willing to pay 75-100p for this shows how stupid the situation is. And is insane unfair.


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try ring of the butcher:)

You compare a mob in a normal zone to a mob in the highest trafficed PvP area. That you normaly take down with 8 ppl.


Well, what ever! I could live with it But atleast give us the potions in stacks so we are on equal terms when going DF or doing long runs.

Sidenote any that sign up for killing Evern on this test server?


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Stasis wrote:

darksousou_ wrote:try ring of the butcher:)

You compare a mob in a normal zone to a mob in the highest trafficed PvP area. That you normaly take down with 8 ppl.


Well, what ever! I could live with it But atleast give us the potions in stacks so we are on equal terms when going DF or doing long runs.

Sidenote any that sign up for killing Evern on this test server?


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Arnulv, the mob who drops the ring of the butcher, can spawn pretty much anywhere in malmo, the highest trafficed PvE area mob-wise. It's not like you can tell yourself "let's farm Arnulv". You can't. And it doesn't even drop the ring that often and god (or Abydos) knows what's his respawn timer like. This item is very rare, it's the kind of jewel you can get out of luck only. Or plats.

Now there is Evern, which doesn't require much to kill and is accessible to everyone. It's regularly farmed by mid groups and is available, but for a significant price considering the average midgard wallet. A plat on mid is not worth the same as a plat on alb. Hello necros. Now if on top of that alb has organisational problems to farm a mob in fz, then you have a market opportunity to make an easy buck. Plus, Breifine is kinda quiet out of EU prime time.
This bracer is even better than the ring of the Butcher since it has a higher utility which makes it eligible to fit into a template, and a reduced RUT of 2min, allowing more charges swapping during the 10 min timer.

I won't dig further into the class balance comparison. there are a few infs out there who got it right.

Now, about the autonomy of a run, doubling or tripling pot capacity would just make sb carry more base str, dex, con, haste, dmg shield pots and whatnot.

patouch wrote:

Stasis wrote:

darksousou_ wrote:try ring of the butcher:)

You compare a mob in a normal zone to a mob in the highest trafficed PvP area. That you normaly take down with 8 ppl.


Well, what ever! I could live with it But atleast give us the potions in stacks so we are on equal terms when going DF or doing long runs.

Sidenote any that sign up for killing Evern on this test server?


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Arnulv, the mob who drops the ring of the butcher, can spawn pretty much anywhere in malmo, the highest trafficed PvE area mob-wise. It's not like you can tell yourself "let's farm Arnulv". You can't. And it doesn't even drop the ring that often and god (or Abydos) knows what's his respawn timer like. This item is very rare, it's the kind of jewel you can get out of luck only. Or plats.

Now there is Evern, which doesn't require much to kill and is accessible to everyone. It's regularly farmed by mid groups and is available, but for a significant price considering the average midgard wallet. A plat on mid is not worth the same as a plat on alb. Hello necros. Now if on top of that alb has organisational problems to farm a mob in fz, then you have a market opportunity to make an easy buck. Plus, Breifine is kinda quiet out of EU prime time.
This bracer is even better than the ring of the Butcher since it has a higher utility which makes it eligible to fit into a template, and a reduced RUT of 2min, allowing more charges swapping during the 10 min timer.

I won't dig further into the class balance comparison. there are a few infs out there who got it right.

Now, about the autonomy of a run, doubling or tripling pot capacity would just make sb carry more base str, dex, con, haste, dmg shield pots and whatnot.

all realm can kill Evern, can you give me access to your butcher ring too?

Alb economy is insane But Evern Bracer and Dragon ring (our only options) is iceing on the cake.

Is Evern your only dex/quick option exept for dragon on mid? Is the butcher ring the only str/con option in mid? I Ask because i dont know.

Who the balls care for the utility you swap it for a god damn buff. That mids uses 1 slot vs rest of the server uses 10 for a worse version.


Im out of this discussion, still got time to farm Evern more before inf is 50.


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Just remember to turn on your chatlog :-p

and what about Heart of North (alb dragonbow) ?!?

at this patchlevel it has to be be 75d/q charge and you devs screwed it. is the other two realms so damn afraid of scouts?

serious? (not that is has to be common to drop that often^^)

Stasis wrote:Is Evern your only dex/quick option exept for dragon on mid? Is the butcher ring the only str/con option in mid? I Ask because i dont know.

Butcher ring is a d/q ring, not a s/c. The s/c item is trivial to get (jewel of the deceiver, soloable). There are other d/q charges available from the dragon.

Stasis wrote:Who the balls care for the utility you swap it for a god damn buff. That mids uses 1 slot vs rest of the server uses 10 for a worse version.

After a bit of field experience, you'll see how comfortable it is to have one less item to swap in swapland, hence the remark about the evern bracer.

Charges play their part in class balance. As mentioned before in that thread, dragonfang, lvl*2,5 spec points, vanish ra, undebuffable WS, or for hib side, viper or avoid pain are also to be considered when it's about balance. Asymetric class design it is, you can't have everything, and stealthers duels often end up about who has purge up or not anyway

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Stasis wrote:
Not stacked affect balance.

Mid use 1 bag slot where i use 10 and at lower quality (lower pluss to str/con )

Yeah i find that affect balance. I can carry less other stuff


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Not stacked is how it was in 1.65 however. I ask mainly to take your point as very few people have realized that it DOES influence victory conditions. That being said, this has not been ruled out internally (However, it won't be 10 or 100 - i.e. bottles/barrels - those will never see a return)

To be honest my lil midget NS would even appreciate a 3 pot.

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Stasis wrote:Is Evern your only dex/quick option exept for dragon on mid? Is the butcher ring the only str/con option in mid? I Ask because i dont know.

Butcher ring is a d/q ring, not a s/c. The s/c item is trivial to get (jewel of the deceiver, soloable). There are other d/q charges available from the dragon.

Stasis wrote:Who the balls care for the utility you swap it for a god damn buff. That mids uses 1 slot vs rest of the server uses 10 for a worse version.

After a bit of field experience, you'll see how comfortable it is to have one less item to swap in swapland, hence the remark about the evern bracer.

Charges play their part in class balance. As mentioned before in that thread, dragonfang, lvl*2,5 spec points, vanish ra, undebuffable WS, or for hib side, viper or avoid pain are also to be considered when it's about balance. Asymetric class design it is, you can't have everything, and stealthers duels often end up about who has purge up or not anyway

I like solution said earlier, give all realms both charges, but make it ws/con debuff instead

Make pots 3 or 5 charges would go a LONG way to help too.


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Stasis wrote:

patouch wrote:

Stasis wrote:Is Evern your only dex/quick option exept for dragon on mid? Is the butcher ring the only str/con option in mid? I Ask because i dont know.

Butcher ring is a d/q ring, not a s/c. The s/c item is trivial to get (jewel of the deceiver, soloable). There are other d/q charges available from the dragon.

Stasis wrote:Who the balls care for the utility you swap it for a god damn buff. That mids uses 1 slot vs rest of the server uses 10 for a worse version.

After a bit of field experience, you'll see how comfortable it is to have one less item to swap in swapland, hence the remark about the evern bracer.

Charges play their part in class balance. As mentioned before in that thread, dragonfang, lvl*2,5 spec points, vanish ra, undebuffable WS, or for hib side, viper or avoid pain are also to be considered when it's about balance. Asymetric class design it is, you can't have everything, and stealthers duels often end up about who has purge up or not anyway

I like solution said earlier, give all realms both charges, but make it ws/con debuff instead

Make pots 3 or 5 charges would go a LONG way to help too.


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O God yes 3 or 5 would e perfect