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Postby Outphaze » Apr 26, 2016 16:47

falscheneun wrote:
Nef Melody wrote:you can cast your spells on wrong targets when queuing


there you go, Outphaze. But then again, im a lazy slob who uses spellqueue and the problem Nef stated happens to me from time to time :|

I've never ran into this problem... So I can't comment on this. Picking targets isn't rocket science.

hicks2 explained the timing lie that Cait keeps mentioning = using spellqueue DOES actually save time...

The only reason you'd want spellqueue off is if actually wait to see if the debuff landed, which 99.9% of players don't do (for good reason). Not worth it IMO, but please, keep playing with spellqueue for absolutely no reason. :lol:

Also, move-rupting is a waste of time, but if you actually know what you're doing it very very rarely happens. Another easy way of rupting yourself (i.e. ending the queue) is losing target or casting a spell that can't be cast on the target (e.g. heal on enemy).

Noqueue is dumb - it's just used by a bunch of tryhards who think they're good for using it. Silly euros...
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Postby Outphaze » Apr 26, 2016 17:05

Nef Melody wrote:If you train your reaction time you can easily go below 250ms - and yes I do exactly that. Cast debuff - look for resist - cast dd/another debuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZjGyeZ9vzQ
:lol:

Same can be seen on your chanter vids.
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Postby PNG » Apr 26, 2016 17:06

noqueue has a big disadvantage on classes with instant and cast spells due to the fact that you lose the concurrency of targeting, casting and instaing ppl. with spellqueue up, you can chain up spells as ppl are coming into your range and target ppl in the same time to interrupt them with your instants. the travel time of your mouse/cursor for targeting ppl just doesn't allow you to do that without spellqueue even if you might be the fastest clicker. especially on live but also here on healer/bard/(minstrel) you want to have spellqueue up. while it can be avoided to double-cast with some training, you'll lose that advantage which can be gamechanging if you turn off spellqueue

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 26, 2016 17:20

Outphaze wrote:
Nef Melody wrote:If you train your reaction time you can easily go below 250ms - and yes I do exactly that. Cast debuff - look for resist - cast dd/another debuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZjGyeZ9vzQ
:lol:

Same can be seen on your chanter vids.


Congratz for linking 2 year old videos, believe it or not but I've made alot of improvements to my gameplay since then.

@png you have to be a cripple with your mouse to be unable rupting with instas while you cast spells. Come back to talk if you can hit 9/10 targets here
http://aim400kg.com/fa/

even if you can just hit 2/10 targets you should be able to play daoc with noqueue and rupt with instants at the same time :lol:
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Postby Mass » Apr 26, 2016 17:24

Nef Melody wrote:
I guess you have no clue what animation cancelling means aswell, you will never be able to do any, waiting for the next spell in queue


Please Nef, what is animation cancelling?
Also,
old grabbag wrote:DEX casing bonus is 1% / 10 level til 250, and 1% / 20 level over

Is that still true? Has it ever been?

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Postby Mass » Apr 26, 2016 17:27

Nef Melody wrote:
@png you have to be a cripple with your mouse to be unable rupting with instas while you cast spells. Come back to talk if you can hit 9/10 targets here
http://aim400kg.com/fa/

even if you can just hit 2/10 targets you should be able to play daoc with noqueue and rupt with instants at the same time :lol:

I gave up at -2000 points, should I play bard or no?

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Postby PNG » Apr 26, 2016 17:33

Nef Melody wrote:
Outphaze wrote:
Nef Melody wrote:If you train your reaction time you can easily go below 250ms - and yes I do exactly that. Cast debuff - look for resist - cast dd/another debuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZjGyeZ9vzQ
:lol:

Same can be seen on your chanter vids.


Congratz for linking 2 year old videos, believe it or not but I've made alot of improvements to my gameplay since then.

@png you have to be a cripple with your mouse to be unable rupting with instas while you cast spells. Come back to talk if you can hit 9/10 targets here
http://aim400kg.com/fa/

even if you can just hit 2/10 targets you should be able to play daoc with noqueue and rupt with instants at the same time :lol:


read, understand, post again and look up the word concurrency. the game mechanic obviously doesn't allow it to rupt a target at the same moment while you have to cast a spell on another one. ofc you can still play well with noqueue up but it just isn't wise to do so.

P.S.: I think you've seen on your healer often enough that I'm fast enough against more than one guy 8)

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 26, 2016 17:39

PNG wrote:read, understand, post again and look up the word concurrency. the game mechanic obviously doesn't allow it to rupt a target at the same moment while you have to cast a spell on another one.


Sorry but, are you stupid ? there is no "concurrency" for instants. I can cast a spell on one target - while I'm casting I can click on another target and press my instant to rupt

P.S.: yea I've seen enough, because I never had any nearsight when you played eld.
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Postby pweet » Apr 26, 2016 17:52

Pls guys this is not Genesis forum 8)

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 26, 2016 18:06

@Mass check your pms, sorry I've ignored your posts before because I thought you were Galandriel due to the avatar !

Fast aiming is very hard in the beginning, start practicing exact aiming and press reaction from that page and you'll eventually be able to master Fast aiming aswell. In the beginning I missed nearly every target, nowadays I rarely miss one.
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Postby Afran » Apr 26, 2016 19:28

Regarding Merc's & auto-training, am I correct in thinking the difference between auto-training to level 40 (level as crush then make use of the free single-line respec to go slash) and auto-training all the way to level 50 (48) is essentially 1 parry level even in the long-term?

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Postby Raifs » Apr 26, 2016 19:32

Afran wrote:Regarding Merc's & auto-training, am I correct in thinking the difference between auto-training to level 40 (level as crush then make use of the free single-line respec to go slash) and auto-training all the way to level 50 (48) is essentially 1 parry level even in the long-term?


Yes

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Postby Liss » Apr 26, 2016 19:40

Loriot wrote:
Screw wrote:...
Does Wild Arcana affect nearsight as well?


no it helps for crit dmg , great if you play with an ench that debuffs for you but it wouldn't be on my top priority ra list if you play a disease/ns rupt bot in a melee setup.

Why not?
Disease can crit; so can str/con and similar debuffs.

Nef Melody wrote:...
From there on you want to get dex2 and Mota3, maybe Mcl2 somewhere inbetween and then at really high ranks add Battery of Life and MoC.

1 point into Wild healing is always good aswell.

Wild healing isn't really worth to spend a single point into, even with ToA you need like wh4 for it to actually matter.

Battery of Life is the luxury item over any viable items, only outdone by dex 3 :P

If you have MoC you probably also want Raging Power.
The times when you have to use MoC you want to be able to actually use up the entire 15 seconds with spellcasting if it is needed, and for that you need a lot of power.
When you have both MoC and RP as a healer, you'll probably find yourself needing to use RP more often than MoC.
Nef Melody wrote:...
Fast aiming is very hard in the beginning, start practicing exact aiming and press reaction from that page and you'll eventually be able to master Fast aiming aswell. In the beginning I missed nearly every target, nowadays I rarely miss one.

I doubt it will be possible now.
But on uth 1.0 I had a character in the xmas zone, deliberately there so I could train aiming while racing the reindeer!

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Postby hazelhimself » Apr 26, 2016 19:48

Im wondering..what are your predictions regarding setup types of the three realms? (melee, hybrid, caster)
Basically i personally dont see any reason to run a castersetup at all unless playing hib. NS is just soooo damn good and grppurge seems the only potent way to counter it.

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 26, 2016 20:03

hazelhimself wrote:Im wondering..what are your predictions regarding setup types of the three realms? (melee, hybrid, caster)
Basically i personally dont see any reason to run a castersetup at all unless playing hib. NS is just soooo damn good and grppurge seems the only potent way to counter it.


That is correct.
Mid will be centered around full melee grps, some of them might add a supp rm for red ns.
Albs will be mostly melee grps aswell, maybe a couple of hybrid grps with sorc/theu/cab, but I doubt that we will see lots of alb castergrps.

Hib can play pretty much everything (melee,hybrid,caster or 5x support)
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