Infinitum wrote:
I feel you need to be slightly careful with accusations of 'avoiding big boy rvr' I've always hung around AMG and never had a problem competing but at times I'm beyond waiting for an hour for no RPS or 1 fight if lucky or 3-4 alb stealthers who don't want to solo so I can understand why some of my colleagues chose to not follow the at times frustrating traditional route.

More recently I've found myself chasing the action, whether that be picking off zergs/keep raiders or baiting in Uppland. Sometimes it's just more fun this way.

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This. Emain has been good lately, so I've been out there. However there are times if definitely isn't worth the run. As a non speed solo stealther you're always better off following the action. It's about having fun. I also enjoy attacking defended keeps and working the walls with a BG. Assassins can do more than 1v1 duel at a mg if you enjoy playing the class that way.

There have been some new faces out for sure. Some new infs and SB's. Have had some good fights in emain this week.

Infinitum wrote:

gumby wrote:Finally forum is back. Seeing new faces/returning players out which is always nice. I'm hoping some of these NS that only solo in DF will come to AMG/big boy RvR. Come out by R5, don't be like Spymistress and Darkhand...

I understand NSs need a few toys to be competitive but Infini is out there showing it just takes some skill pre R5 that you can't build taking keeps or only hunting DF (who would have thought).

A new to me Elf is out there trying to take Ciraths spot as hardest NS.

@Arven Sorry about the vanish, wasn't buffed and semi afk at AMG. Normally I'd take the death and come back but I didn't want to wait. Didn't know you wouldn't Inc me after while I was playing with the gates (if you were still there).

I feel you need to be slightly careful with accusations of 'avoiding big boy rvr' I've always hung around AMG and never had a problem competing but at times I'm beyond waiting for an hour for no RPS or 1 fight if lucky or 3-4 alb stealthers who don't want to solo so I can understand why some of my colleagues chose to not follow the at times frustrating traditional route.

More recently I've found myself chasing the action, whether that be picking off zergs/keep raiders or baiting in Uppland. Sometimes it's just more fun this way.

The "/" was meant as an "or" for other big boy RVR (not always zerging or DF- nothing wrong with it from time to time), I of course find myself chasing the action as well. If you only RVR at AMG you wouldn't get to R4 with the lack of Inc outside prime time (and I'm US so peak population is less than 500). I also have fun in DF until a certain Elf kicks me out of hib side or Dwarf of mid but this is not the only place I go.

I'm not here to call anyone out, well maybe a few people, but rally the stealthers. Uthgard 1 had way more inc with lower population, you can't tell me that the lack of MOS is actually hurting Stealth wars is it? We actually have an even playing ground without Rangers killing everything. Minstrels were always a PIA but you get to pick your fights as a stealther.

We need to bring back Uthgard 1 (minus the Rangers) where you could run to AMG (I was a NS so I know the pain after they removed the horse). Fight Divin, Blacbeard, Maelle, Ogmora (I understand why visible don't solo often here), Dexx, Ramboz, Luci, Infini, who ever and make 10k/rps an hour.

@Cirath fun fight the other day, you evaded the 2nd chain in my evade stun twice! emain was awesome today

So I died in an RvR area. Though I'd like your thoughts, I am a ranger running 4 PF buffs (of which 2 are useful ) and base dex, s/c pots. Phooka d/q and AF charge buff. I 've got 40 pierce and 18 cd trained, and of course wearing no paper armour.

The scenario:
*spots Briton Gryphon Knight with staff* (yes, it's a friar)
*shoots bow*
*looks at bow damage, and cries internally*
*hits friar with mellee: 70 mainhand 50 offhand*
## CHHOOO CHOOO, friar train incoming ##
Hits me for a whooping 370damage per hit with the speed of a Japanese maglev train.

Dead elf on the floor.

Now I realise bow damage is somewhat, different against several targets and has been discussed over and over.
What I would like to know, what else can I do to reduce damage done to me and increase damage done to enemy.

Besides from strafing getting stun off, kiting , stealthing and shooting again.

I know I am not a NS with a bow, and thus should not play as one. And I get more toys as I get higher rr.. but it's tough versus some targets. (And I don't mean vs sb's / infils)

Agree, it feels strange when you hit a target in the 50-60 area and get hit back for 150+ maybe even 2-300.
when i get these numbers i think either debuffed, or opponent uses avoid pain ra. cant explain it othervise.
also damage tables are importen i guess, supprised me that scouts and hunters is on 19 and inf, minstrel, ranger, sb and ns are on 18. when you think scouts are total crap in melee.

As a thrust inf i should have +damage vs mid chain and i lots of times get - damage, is this because of Spec AF or other buffs?

mp lvl 51 armor and spec AF is your only card for damage taken as far i know.

@Arven Sorry about the vanish, wasn't buffed and semi afk at AMG. Normally I'd take the death and come back but I didn't want to wait. Didn't know you wouldn't Inc me after while I was playing with the gates (if you were still there).

first of all...its np if you vanish to escape or to gimme a pa .....its a nice ra you infis got and i would use it also so all good BUT that you are semi afk i dont believe cause 20 seconds before i attacked you were jumping up and down unstealthed like showing here i am attack me !! but nevermind maybe next time after you escaped i noticed that air must have been also around cause i noticed a outrunning buff from him so i thought you have been in duo with him and dont wanted to engage me 2vs1 .

Danni-k wrote:

@Arven Sorry about the vanish, wasn't buffed and semi afk at AMG. Normally I'd take the death and come back but I didn't want to wait. Didn't know you wouldn't Inc me after while I was playing with the gates (if you were still there).

first of all...its np if you vanish to escape or to gimme a pa .....its a nice ra you infis got and i would use it also so all good BUT that you are semi afk i dont believe cause 20 seconds before i attacked you were jumping up and down unstealthed like showing here i am attack me !! but nevermind maybe next time after you escaped i noticed that air must have been also around cause i noticed a outrunning buff from him so i thought you have been in duo with him and dont wanted to engage me 2vs1 .

That's the semi afk part. I prob lost my dex quick buff and decided no Inc and not to reuse so I stealth and tab for a bit not expecting Inc or any Inc to go to Air since he's in the area and ofc I wouldn't add. I only run dex/quick and haste when I don't see any high RR spam and Flex said you were near Cain that day. Also I'm never duo at AMG if you get 2 there was an add or I'm adding an... adder. So I vanish use a dex quick charge and a couple or heal pots and come out to find you.

gumby wrote:

Danni-k wrote:

@Arven Sorry about the vanish, wasn't buffed and semi afk at AMG. Normally I'd take the death and come back but I didn't want to wait. Didn't know you wouldn't Inc me after while I was playing with the gates (if you were still there).

first of all...its np if you vanish to escape or to gimme a pa .....its a nice ra you infis got and i would use it also so all good BUT that you are semi afk i dont believe cause 20 seconds before i attacked you were jumping up and down unstealthed like showing here i am attack me !! but nevermind maybe next time after you escaped i noticed that air must have been also around cause i noticed a outrunning buff from him so i thought you have been in duo with him and dont wanted to engage me 2vs1 .

That's the semi afk part. I prob lost my dex quick buff and decided no Inc and not to reuse so I stealth and tab for a bit not expecting Inc or any Inc to go to Air since he's in the area and ofc I wouldn't add. I only run dex/quick and haste when I don't see any high RR spam and Flex said you were near Cain that day. Also I'm never duo at AMG if you get 2 there was an add or I'm adding an... adder. So I vanish use a dex quick charge and a couple or heal pots and come out to find you.

I read it, but I cannot believe it

I tab for a bit not expecting inc

at a gate? You sure?

and off I wouldn't add

You're a proper player, but you do add. (nothing wrong with it, but you do)

I am never duo at AMG

I love you Gumby, but come-on

I love that duo between svasud and fensa .... i ask koioo to kill them

I tab for a bit not expecting inc

at a gate? You sure?

and off I wouldn't add

You're a proper player, but you do add. (nothing wrong with it, but you do)

I am never duo at AMG

I was on the post with other albs around (as Arven said), including a scout which is more likely to be found that I am. So tab often when I don't have inc. Actually most of the time I as stealthed out of the way, its because I am tabbed and if I am visible I am looking for inc. As Arven said, I was visible before he inc'd me and ask many NSs who side stun me. I do this mainly when other albs are around, and Cirath knows why, so many time I am looking for inc and they find someone else first, so annoying. I was probably visible for 5 minutes before Arven saw me, buffs started to drop so I stealth and tabbed for a bit. I said I add adders, even then I give you the benefit of the doubt if I can.. ask Niute. I don't recall group at AMG, maybe I am wrong. DF is another story, no rules there

"Arven this isn't DF, there are rules here"

-Gumby talking about AMG




DF is the wild west, add away and dont feel bad about it. Just by being there you are a threat to folks PvEing and need to be removed.

wow!!!.........thats all about to say about today

I like mids with 3 str relics. It brings the SB's out

so then tell me pls who these sbs are ? i just see the ones who are always out with or without relics but now they will disapear again anyway

OP shadowrun for the win