So in the end Albs its amateur server and we cant blame if they dont wanna fight.
Its ok for self upgrade door just to get rp from it and on top of that we shoud be blamed because we want to have fight and ruin your fun in taking keep whit random char.

Did i miss something ?

Filters wrote:So in the end Albs its amateur server and we cant blame if they dont wanna fight.
Its ok for self upgrade door just to get rp from it and on top of that we shoud be blamed because we want to have fight and ruin your fun in taking keep whit random char.

Did i miss something ?

Come on man, I know you since uth1...don't be so rude ffs. Let people play how they want, DAOC = freedom, it's not some arena style game. I agree with you on the door part if we are talking about dual logging door upg, but really no need to be so rude! You need to think of people's feelings sometimes, most of them mean well and are friendly.

Filters wrote:So in the end Albs its amateur server and we cant blame if they dont wanna fight.
Its ok for self upgrade door just to get rp from it and on top of that we shoud be blamed because we want to have fight and ruin your fun in taking keep whit random char.

Did i miss something ?

For my part, I've tried to give a different perspective on things.
It's not a black/white world, the situation has nuances.

No. 1 thing to blame is low population, and all other things don't even come close.

No. "whatever" is different player ressources, doesn't really matter if it's skill, courage, or imbalance, Hibs seem to be better of currently, and blaming albs doesn't solve anything.


If people dual-log to upgrade keeps, or break server timer, then they should be banned.

Spivo wrote:

Filters wrote:So in the end Albs its amateur server and we cant blame if they dont wanna fight.
Its ok for self upgrade door just to get rp from it and on top of that we shoud be blamed because we want to have fight and ruin your fun in taking keep whit random char.

Did i miss something ?

For my part, I've tried to give a different perspective on things.
It's not a black/white world, the situation has nuances.

No. 1 thing to blame is low population, and all other things don't even come close.

No. "whatever" is different player ressources, doesn't really matter if it's skill, courage, or imbalance, Hibs seem to be better of currently, and blaming albs doesn't solve anything.


If people dual-log to upgrade keeps, or break server timer, then they should be banned.

Why dont just fight i dont understand I mean is the core of the game and its not like if die in game you die in real life ... this is not sword art online !

Btw we are planning to move Alb soon you welcome to take our spot in the strongest realm

Filters wrote:Btw we are planning to move Alb soon you welcome to take our spot in the strongest realm

Have you thought about only moving half of you? Then you'd have someone to fight regularly, and you could pick up the rest to form a group?

Spivo wrote:

Filters wrote:Btw we are planning to move Alb soon you welcome to take our spot in the strongest realm

Have you thought about only moving half of you? Then you'd have someone to fight regularly, and you could pick up the rest to form a group?

No need, we talked whit abydos. When we move he get you moved aswell by force

Hello,
most Midgard and Hibernia players have gathered in groups.
They are experienced and know what they have to do.
If they went back to Midgard, I'm sure everyone will go.
I think it's similar in Albion except you don't change realms.

Rudra wrote:Hello,
most Midgard and Hibernia players have gathered in groups.
They are experienced and know what they have to do.
If they went back to Midgard, I'm sure everyone will go.
I think it's similar in Albion except you don't change realms.

One thing that confused me was that so many say that they want open field even number group fights but never organized any. Some said that they are 'not a fan' of the keep taking meta but never did anything to change it or create an alternative to it.

But in practice it would be hard to do group fights. With the long realm switch timer it would be hard to organize the right amount of players on different realms. Some players would have to be left out when there are uneven numbers of players. It would be hard to level and template different characters to be flexible when making groups.

It is easier, more consistent and more social to play on the same realm and take keeps and fight the casual players at scheduled times. And fewer players will be left out when you can just add new groups in a battlegroup.

Hello,
very difficult to implement, this has been suggested before.
At the moment the Albs keep picking up in the morning, hardly any Mids or Hibs there.
At the moment there are a lot of Hibs at Eu primetime, hardly any Mids, some Albums.
Some players don't engage in RvR they prefer to do PvE which is ok too.
At night it's Na Raid/Primetime these people also want to do RvR, take keeps.
How do you want to organize that everyone is online at the same time.

The biggest problem is the server's low population.

Rudra wrote:The biggest problem is the server's low population.

Amen

fiskgrodan wrote:But in practice it would be hard to do group fights. With the long realm switch timer it would be hard to organize the right amount of players on different realms. Some players would have to be left out when there are uneven numbers of players. It would be hard to level and template different characters to be flexible when making groups.

It would help if they decided they didn't have to be in the same realm as their friends, but instead split up and form groups in the old fashion PUG way.
Or they could continue to complain about how the other players don't go out and do normal RvR.

Rudra wrote:Hello,
The biggest problem is the server's low population.

Seems to me that major problems are also the server ruleset allowing RPs to be farmed by taking undefended keeps, and also the lack of a GM team policing the rulebreakers of Uthgard, be they albses or otherwise. But yes, a server with no population is in itself a rather large problem, lol.

Uthgard 1 let's go

Spivo wrote:

fiskgrodan wrote:But in practice it would be hard to do group fights. With the long realm switch timer it would be hard to organize the right amount of players on different realms. Some players would have to be left out when there are uneven numbers of players. It would be hard to level and template different characters to be flexible when making groups.

It would help if they decided they didn't have to be in the same realm as their friends, but instead split up and form groups in the old fashion PUG way.
Or they could continue to complain about how the other players don't go out and do normal RvR.

You didnt notice maybe we did many times already and the result is always the same, not enough people and you outnumber us, we cant fight each other too. Now ofc its a weird time since its like the first time i see so many people in hib. but usually we can barely make fg

Filters wrote:You didnt notice maybe we did many times already and the result is always the same, not enough people and you outnumber us, we cant fight each other too. Now ofc its a weird time since its like the first time i see so many people in hib. but usually we can barely make fg

Bullshit. You guys all transfer realm all at the same time. Let's see, Enna, Filters, Fremster, Wic, Shanulfia, Skurk (and maybe Litha once in a blue moon). That's atleast 6. Shouldn't be too hard to find 2 or 3 randoms. It's just now that you brought some hibs with you and also the Ripbro crew returned. Always complaining about the Romu zerg, yet you do exactly the same now. 2fg of albs max, 3fg of hibs.

There's actually a word for that, but then again, I cannot remember it.

It wouldn't surprise me however, if Skurk comes over to Albion to stir up some action. I heared he's good at that. Then transfer realm to farm the Albs again. I guess it is what it is.

Edit: And let me be clear, just incase you misunderstand. You could have a healthy RvR situation, if the a certain playerbase wasn't so toxic. More players would 8vs8, etc, etc. But it is what it is.