Let us get them to melee with debuffs/amnesia, one of the most gamebreaking bugs when facing albs in rvr.

Not supposed to melee from debuffs. Only from amnesia, direct damage, or being in melee range of the pet.

While we're at it, can we fix air pets to cast stun from 1250 range instead of melee proc only?

Ensley03 wrote:Not supposed to melee from debuffs.

gtfo

Ensley03 wrote:Not supposed to melee from debuffs. Only from amnesia, direct damage, or being in melee range of the pet.

While we're at it, can we fix air pets to cast stun from 1250 range instead of melee proc only?

Uhh what? One of the biggest ways to deal with ice pets back in the day as a hib was hit them with an AoE s/c or DQ debuff. We even talked about this when you were in my groups on Alb when I was on my theurg.

The air pets should be fixed for sure.

This issue has already been confirmed here: https://www2.uthgard.net/tracker/issue/ ... ets_rupted

There is also plenty of evidence that backs up these claims. Let me know if you have any further questions regarding the mechanic!

Ensley03 wrote:Not supposed to melee from debuffs. Only from amnesia, direct damage, or being in melee range of the pet.

While we're at it, can we fix air pets to cast stun from 1250 range instead of melee proc only?

get carried much kiddo?

it depends if you rupt them before or after 50% of their cast if they will go into melee or keep on casting.
on uth they stop their cast and continue afterwards again nomatter what afaik, so it is 50% correct

YOLKD wrote:

Ensley03 wrote:Not supposed to melee from debuffs. Only from amnesia, direct damage, or being in melee range of the pet.

While we're at it, can we fix air pets to cast stun from 1250 range instead of melee proc only?

get carried much kiddo?

Random nobody?

says the dude that couldnt get a group to save his life in the beta

YOLKD wrote:says the dude that couldnt get a group to save his life in the beta

YOLKD wrote:says the dude that couldnt get a group to save his life in the beta

Wut? I got RR6 in beta running with plague/paper/SBTB ... ?

most of my guild stopped running because of bugs like this, also relics i wish were just disabled. Even on hib when we had them it was to strong. Id hate to see albs with ice pets and 3 power relics

Ozean wrote:most of my guild stopped running because of bugs like this, also relics i wish were just disabled. Even on hib when we had them it was to strong. Id hate to see albs with ice pets and 3 power relics

Yea, I think major rvr imbalances at this patch level in addition to bugs and relics are the #1 reason for rvr oriented players to leave this server

Relics are not a balance issue - there were 4 Mid groups in Emain last night and 4 Alb groups and the Mids got farmed. 2 of the groups didn't even have a Theurgist - so ice pets are not an issue. The high RR groups know each other and dump everything - 2 BoF + SoS vs 3 PR, Ichor, MoCs. Class RA advantage for Alb, but MoC Healers are pretty retarded, so no issue here either. The Bethlem dudes who rerolled Alb after QQing about SoS found out it doesn't actually give you a free win. Savages and Zerkers can 1 shot people with abused style mechanics but it's more rare so not really an issue.

...So what is the issue?

What is it youre trying to argue charades? Icepets are alot stronger then they should be, due to proven bugged mechanics, thats it, it's frustrating knowing how to deal with something, not being being able to counter it, when you should be able to.

Hence why the topic was created.

The best alb groups on eu prime don't even use a theurgist. I wonder about the people who apparently quit the server because of ice pets, what is your winrate vs darkdawn and prime pugs ? And while albion is indeed strong and there is no apparent counter to good Sos usage especially with a mincer who is also running a red pet, and there is some merit to complaining about huge rvr imbalances, theurgist on its own should not be a big issue, a 30 min purge is not going to help significantly vs blue+ nearsight, at which point theurgist becomes useless vs enemy support. The combination of sos + bof + theurgist is the problem and removing theurgist will still make low/mid rr hib/mid groups lose more than they win as shown by all good alb groups who dont use one.