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Postby Skullbones » Jul 26, 2018 01:39

While you're at it, will you be fixing critical 2+ year old class bugs that affect RVR rather than random item fixes? Or do we have to write a 30 page peer reviewed document to get them fixed?

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Daetren
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Postby Daetren » Jul 26, 2018 01:42

Skullbones wrote:While you're at it, will you be fixing critical 2+ year old class bugs that affect RVR rather than random item fixes? Or do we have to write a 30 page peer reviewed document to get them fixed?

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Postby Warjon » Jul 26, 2018 03:06

Played all morning. Regen needs to be faster. OR put tinder boxes on all arrow merchants for some silver!

Teleporters. Took me over 10 min to go from a guys merchant in housing to W Cornwall.

free respec.

acct vault

and no wait transfer during event to get all the alts up too.

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Postby jdw » Jul 26, 2018 04:09

albeyond wrote:
Raku wrote:@albeyond

Uthgard 3 would have the same high RR chars again at some point. So what's the point about that? :|


Eventually it should be left alone in the absence of massive changes, but the proposed changes and attempts to revive the population demand the server be wiped. If not, these changes won't do anything. Please screenshot this post so I can be proven right in the months to follow.

Again, it comes down to player psychology. You are giving me and the thousands of other shard players considering Uth vs. P-server two choices:

1- Uthgard 2.5 (lets call it that once you add QoL)
2- Fresh server start.

I would bet that 90% of the players currently not playing a freeshard will choose the fresh start. This isn't hard.

**EDIT** I would also like to add that not wiping the server to pander to the 150 players still here vs. not considering the hype that a fresh server has for the thousands of players who would play if you listened to them is the reason the server is now dead. You aren't making changes that benefit the majority, you are making decisions that the no-life minority (who will play either way) approve of. Remember, there is a discord with 1k+ players in it who don't play Uthgard waiting for another server to launch.

+1 (or should i say + every ex uthgard player?) :lol:

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Postby unincoinco » Jul 26, 2018 04:25

Magic magic
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relvinian
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Postby relvinian » Jul 26, 2018 04:27

This reminds me of a buddhist quote:

"The Buddha told his followers there are four kinds of horses. The first sees merely the form of the whip and runs. The second reacts when the whip taps its hair. The third is aroused when the whip contacts its flesh. The fourth is animated when the whip touches its bone. "

Guess which kind Uthgard staff is?

Anyways, that doesn't make them bad. They are good at what they do well. This is one of the oldest servers, longest uptime, most stable, can handle a lot of players. I'm not personally going to login right now. But I'm keeping a close eye on it and there is probably about a 90"% chance I will play again.

I'm sure if I don't come back lots of people will be fine with that decision. I might miss some of you. I really liked Guardians of Light folks on alb, good people. And there were several people on different realms that were always nice to me.
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

Players can greatly contribute to a server if you let them.

Uthgard, still the best server. Thanks, Devs.

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Prometheus
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Postby Prometheus » Jul 26, 2018 04:34

i'm excited about the new changes, one thing i miss from uthgard 1 is the old formula for serenity, may of been bugged but it helped all realms equally and made the downtime a little more bearable.

Edit:
would love to see the guard/assassin/keep tasks implemented also, that at least gave a chance to progress your characters when there's not alot of action or too much action.
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Postby SlaterAC » Jul 26, 2018 04:45

Trishin wrote:
Enrighteous wrote:Why now? Anyone with a smidge of intellect can see the very apparent desperation of this announcement. Alternatives arise with a community driven development team. You have neglected your children only to re-appear for their adulthood as if this does not leave a bitter taste in ones mouth. Disgusting

"Never change a working system" - we have (finally?) reached a state where the current system is not working, so now we are changing it.

Hopefully the players will be able to embrace this change, and help us improve Uthgard.



Wait wait wait.. Wasnt it just not that long ago Abydos and you others would say things like....If you dont like the server then leave? Cursing at the playerbase telling them to ****** off in all regards?

But please come back and play our server !!!

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Postby Valfar » Jul 26, 2018 04:52

albeyond wrote:It pains us that you only make changes when alternative servers gain traction (happened in 2014 with <voldemort 1> and now with <voldemort 2>) shows that you lack leadership and direction.

If you want to do this right:
-clean house, get a new GM staff
-wipe the server
-add QoL
-add SI
-email blast every single player and set a new launch date


Wipe yourself in rl, ****** whiner. Why do you people play DAOC if there are so many games out there which give you instant gratification? And no, wiping the server will not help population long term. This game is not for everyone and the stable population is almost always the same, depending on the time of year. Worst possible thing is to constantly try to attract players with QoL or wiping the server. Sure, short term population will spike but people who are unable to take DAOC for what it is will eventually move on. Meanwhile, a lot of players who truly are willing to play this game will just call it quits after so many wipes, like many already have.

You think a wipe is great, then 6 months after the wipe another moron with your mental midget mentality will start whining about the wipe, and another and another. How about just pick your poison and stick to it? Either build yourself up to be able to deal with an environment or don't be a part of it at all, because no amount of wipes or restarts will ever be enough for the likes of you. Genius idea, wanting to recapture the population by catering to the people who are not cut out for this game and just jump on hype trains and constantly whine for more free stuff and eventually get bored and quit anyway. The only stable part of the population are RvR people and those who like the old school grind. Others will always find excuses like "I can't fight higher RR players" or "We need more QoL, XP is way too slow". In the end, if you don't invest time in getting better in PvP of any kind, you won't have fun playing DAOC and that's it. No amount of fresh starts will help you with that.

Again, the Population is not some supernatural entity, you're a part of it. You can either help with server being stable or just jump on the next hype train. I understand people wanting faster travels, more charges on pots and stuff that kills down time in RvR but this other stuff is just bullshit and is mostly asked exactly by the type of players this or any other server doesn't need, because they never get tired of requests and once they're bored or owned in RvR, they just disappear or wait for another shard to open, thinking how now they will be better and well, on that shard they whine as soon as someone owns them :D.

At this point it's probably the best idea to re-open uthgard1 with eventual implementation of SI and get rid of all this genesis subhuman scum that we got and get some loyal players back.
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Postby Rawr » Jul 26, 2018 05:06

Raku wrote:Yeah, it was clear. Yet, I wanted to make clear that I'm also fully against a wipe because I think not it would change something. That's all what I wanted to say.

Raku


No offense but players like you should have no say and should shut the ****** up. You don't play enough or at all to have any impact on the server. Nothing at all should be catered to people like you who can't even play.

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Postby Raku » Jul 26, 2018 05:09

Rawr wrote:
Raku wrote:Yeah, it was clear. Yet, I wanted to make clear that I'm also fully against a wipe because I think not it would change something. That's all what I wanted to say.

Raku


No offense but players like you should have no say and should shut the ****** up. You don't play enough or at all to have any impact on the server. Nothing at all should be catered to people like you who can't even play.


Sorry, but nice try. I'm on uthgard since '05. Hope next time you'll be luckier :wink:

BTW it doesn't need a long time to play on a server to have an opinion about wipes. Don't confuse that.

Raku

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Postby Rawr » Jul 26, 2018 05:16

Raku wrote:
Rawr wrote:
Raku wrote:Yeah, it was clear. Yet, I wanted to make clear that I'm also fully against a wipe because I think not it would change something. That's all what I wanted to say.

Raku


No offense but players like you should have no say and should shut the ****** up. You don't play enough or at all to have any impact on the server. Nothing at all should be catered to people like you who can't even play.


Sorry, but nice try. I'm on uthgard since '05. Hope next time you'll be luckier :wink:

BTW it doesn't need a long time to play on a server to have an opinion about wipes. Don't confuse that.

Raku

Raku


What kind of argument is that? I have been here since the beginning also. Your opinion does not matter at all because you literally have no time to play the server like you stated. Why should the server cater towards someone like that instead of majority of players that they are trying to bring back? Hell, you even play a MMO as a solo....you are a vast minority who should ****** off and let people who matter discuss here. EDIT: dude you dont even have anyone past level 5...LOL

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Postby Raku » Jul 26, 2018 05:23

Sorry, but I can't even take you seriously. You're just "screaming" at me while you don't know me at all. Just because DAoC is a MMO it doesn't urgently mean that you're ought to always play with other folks, you can, but you aren't obliged to do.

If all you can do is blaming other people for the fact that they're against yet another wipe and not argumentating in a well manner then I'm very sorry for you, putting it in a polite way.

But at least you're exactly doing what your nickname says "Rawrrrrr" :wink:

Edit: Yes, I've past level 5 characters, but yeah, you know it better ;)

Yet again: Nice try.

Raku

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Postby Xalara » Jul 26, 2018 07:38

Charwipe is not gonna happen. Nothing to see here, nothing to return to. Time to move on. Nothing has changed and the mindset of the administration is not going to change, these are just last-straw changes because they see that their server is dying.

Heads up: Changes won't do anything to revive the server, it's too late. Without a char wipe, nothing is going ot change and the majority will play on the other server, where you can actually see a vision and staff that cares about it's playerbase.

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Postby Celteen » Jul 26, 2018 08:27

Tajendi 2 would bring back some guys I suppose :)
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