Braxis wrote:

vangonaj wrote:I want see all bugs that we will have with old ras.

LOL

Then prepare for quite a sight.

If for 5 years NF RAs are still bugged wile being fully testable on live, imagine for how long the OF RAs will be bugged if ever implemented...

Yes will be a hell.

Toblerone wrote:

zaszeadora wrote:Well i have no needed of prove you that i played live( i did and 4 years since 2001) but now i understand why ppl usually dont ever care about read your post

Because I make sense and it hurts people that I made them think twice ? Yeah you played live. Live also had pve, and it had skilless zergs most of the time during that period. Playing is a relative term, doesn't mean you were an experienced rvrer whatsoever.

I was top 5 arms on Merlin before SI was released, and had a rank 6L5 inf before toa , and a cler too rank 5+ , all before toa, why you allways talk so much nosense?

Should keep silent and dont post "Im so pro you suck" on every board.

Seems that you know a lot about skilless zergs...well not all ppl can get their rps on good battles right ?

Braxis wrote:At least you could pugre ns once every fight.
Can you pugre a mid tank train?

Now, you can, if you have it up. In the setting we are going too, it will be one fight, go to some keep / safe place, alt tab, chat / youtube till RAs come up to counter this inbalance. Yep mid tank trains are so easy to kite it is hilarious, i'm not saying sos / charge incs aren't imba (still counterable by BOF by albs AND hibs), ns duration at 2 minutes and purge every 30 minutes imo is even worse. 1 fight every 30 minutes is oh so fun, or shall we call it character development? Or classic? Or flawed?

I've seen this on live, when purge / some major ra like bof or sos or grp purge was down, grps dissapeared for 25minutes before appearing again. On this server that means less action!

Even now grps are waiting for purge to counter ns, in this other setting, well...

NS don't make you unable to cast,it reduce your range
So you have to select closer target or come close to.
So you have to change your gameplay,that's all.
When YOU will be able to put NS first you will be happy for that!
So don't QQ about this!
Actually,everyplayers don't have a purge 3 and are able to compete with it.Just use your brain for a moment,every active RA will be at his own maximum effect,so purge will cost 10pts when it cost 5+10+15 =30pts atm.Or 15 it you think of purge2 but you all talk about purge timer.so finally you EARN 20pts RA to spec in other skills.
I remember on live,when NF was implemented,everybody was QQing about RAs and prefer the old ones.And finally...

All we can see here atm,is only kids afraid to lose their "i win" mode.All these ones have warm slot waiting for them on Eden,with New RA,artifacts,ML,CL and co.(AE mezz on PA ).
So respect the Staff choice,the community choice (poll give advantage to oldRA) or feel free to leave.

zaszeadora wrote:I was top 5 arms on Merlin before SI was released, and had a rank 6L5 inf before toa , and a cler too rank 5+ , all before toa, why you allways talk so much nosense?

I am impressed. Really. You just radiate all around vast knowledge of rvr tactics.

Jonah wrote:I will quit for the great imbalances and boredom old RA`s creating, specially in 8vs8, but most ppl dont remember the times when u had to sit afk at pk to wait for RA`s to even have a chanse against the high rr gg´s.

You don't get that when you face enemies with equal strength/RR you don't have to waste any RA, or at least shouldn't unless he does too and you are set on winning.

THIS is how you manage to keep your strong RAs up for fights against tougher enemies, just as tougher enemies will not blow their RAs easily for lower RR enemies.


Of course the NF RA mentality will not prevail anymore, and I glad it won't. Solo casters ftw! Good times inc. ^^




@Nearsight discussion: yea, it is and will be an even worse problem with Old RAs than it is now.
Will it prevent groups from logging out for 30 minutes? I doubt it.
Is that relevant to whether it has to be fixed before implementing Old RAs? No way.

@People who claim it's no problem, stop talking blindfolded by your love for Classic DAoC. Nearsight was barely used back when Old RAs were live, you CAN'T say it's not a big deal on Uthgard, you just can't.

Kaltess wrote:So don't QQ about this!

Kaltess, who is your main? Caster/suporter or det tank?

Kaltess wrote:NS don't make you unable to cast,it reduce your range
So you have to select closer target or come close to.
So you have to change your gameplay,that's all.
When YOU will be able to put NS first you will be happy for that!
So don't QQ about this!
Actually,everyplayers don't have a purge 3 and are able to compete with it.Just use your brain for a moment,every active RA will be at his own maximum effect,so purge will cost 10pts when it cost 5+10+15 =30pts atm.Or 15 it you think of purge2 but you all talk about purge timer.so finally you EARN 20pts RA to spec in other skills.
I remember on live,when NF was implemented,everybody was QQing about RAs and prefer the old ones.And finally...

All we can see here atm,is only kids afraid to lose their "i win" mode.All these ones have warm slot waiting for them on Eden,with New RA,artifacts,ML,CL and co.(AE mezz on PA ).
So respect the Staff choice,the community choice (poll give advantage to oldRA) or feel free to leave.

ROFL, don't make me laugh.

The community DIDN'T vote to remove the BGs.

The community DIDN'T vote to go back to patch 1.69.

The community DID however vote to remove SI classes, shall we make that glorious choice too? It would fit right in with the new server direction.


I won't even go into your absurd math about Purge, 10 points for half an hour, or three times more points but for SIX (in numbers: 6) times lower re-use timer. Hmm... what could possibly be better?

Kaltess wrote:So you have to change your gameplay,that's all.
When YOU will be able to put NS first you will be happy for that!
So don't QQ about this!

Actually,everyplayers don't have a purge 3 and are able to compete with ithe community choice (poll give advantage to oldRA) or feel free to leave.

The "change your gameplay" comment is bs, how about when you have purge down and the other grp has it up? Your grp WINS the NS war and they purge it and NS your grp cause they have IWIN purge+ns? STILL FAIR? f ucking BS!

Rizla wrote:ns duration at 2 minutes and purge every 30 minutes imo is even worse. 1 fight every 30 minutes is oh so fun, or shall we call it character development? Or classic? Or flawed?

I've seen this on live, when purge / some major ra like bof or sos or grp purge was down, grps dissapeared for 25minutes before appearing again. On this server that means less action!

Even now grps are waiting for purge to counter ns, in this other setting, well...

Try to fight with your classes skills and not with your actives RA as main skill,and it will be fine.Perfect example are stealthers unable to TRY a kill without their "i win" combo (purge+IP+vanish) up.
And,have a look to other part of next patch:
-No more BG after 34
-XP spots on frontiers.

Don't think you need many active RA for that.There will be action for stealthers,like in DF.

I'll say it again..
Horrible, horrible idea..
I for one will quit this server if it goes live..
Old RA's got changed for a reason..
People just don't remember how much it sucked..

Kaltess wrote:Try to fight with your classes skills and not with your actives RA as main skill,and it will be fine..

None played live when no ras was implemented? people did rvr!! and none cried about that, people fight with only their spec habilities and +plus on skills ^^

Kaltess wrote:Try to fight with your classes skills and not with your actives RA as main skill,and it will be fine.

Said the 3fg Zerg-Man farming fgs

Edit: I remember the Old RAs times, and aren't good memories.

you live in a dream, people played because it was new and they knew nothing about daoc.

you may still not know much, but others do and so they don't want to go back to crap systems