LSUChadk wrote:There should not be capped gear. The purpose of not having it is so that we go out and explore the game to get the gear we need. That way, we find the bugs and get them fixed. If everyone is out in RVR with the same gear, no one will go do the things necessary to get gear when it goes live.

But we already did that. The endgame PvE content has been available in the beta from day 1. Our guild has multiple Legendary crafters and one or sometimes two alts completely SC'd. Now it is time to get the RvR tested; and it would be seriously stupid to put additional barriers between the volunteers and the testing at this point.

I'm not talking about giving everybody a sweet template. I'm saying we should level the field in the most ways possible so we can get accurate data.

People will still pve, dragon legion etc etc will still get killed after this evening.

It would be easier to test the accuracy of player on player with equal gear though, that's just obvious. I don't think this phase should be about who has better gear, it should be about the mechanics. We want to ensure they work in the shortest time so we can progress on to launch.


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Im pretty sure the gear wont be cap, but it won't be yellow standard either. So stop QQ'ing about this, farm 3-5 hours and you got youself a template

I am excited for you guys, I wish this came at a different time so I could grind my way to 50 with everyone else when the full release comes. But so many new games coming out soon I think i will be preoccupied. But hope to do it sometime in the future.

munchies wrote:Im pretty sure the gear wont be cap, but it won't be yellow standard either. So stop QQ'ing about this, farm 3-5 hours and you got youself a template

I'm not QQing. I'm just looking at it with some common sense. Also, where will you be farming for 3-5 hours if the whole i50 pop will head to the same place? There are minimal farm spots as it is, an influx of players will only make things much, much slower. And we don't want to slow the beta down any more really do we?

if ppl think they need perfect sc to dominate a beta just let them, it's not worth anything except there time invested in farming. i will test with the gear they give to me and im sure many people will do the same.

Equade wrote:

Torgo wrote:Will unlimited RA and regular respecs be available so we can test out various combinations of RAs/Specs?

(if that is the case now and I just didn't realize it, plz disregard)

I can't get myself to disregard this as someone above also asked for this.

In the maximum 25 lines of text it says "free respecs".

Get in the game, lads..

"free respecs" could be interpreted in a few different ways...it did not say "unlimited realm and skill line respecs"..even if that was the intent.

I'm proud of you that you interpreted it one way. Maybe English isn't your 1st language so I will give you a pass. No crime in asking for clarity.

lol the point of cap gear is too test spell/melee damage variations on max resists, spell/melee damage variations with capped specs and attributes. its not to test how much your LGM crafter can charge for people looking for SC. its not to test how long it will take to farm specific gear from mobs.

everyone who is against cap gear is just trying to push their small and simple minded agenda to 1 up the competition for a BETA test.

in reality keeping cap gear out, only prolongs testing and keeps us all from the release. i honestly still think you people dont know everything you have done in this phase will be deleted.

Who cares if it's capped or not. It's all getting wiped soon. I am looking forward to everyone being at lvl 1.....

no allcap armor makes no sence for test for melee/cast dmg or defence formulas etc.

for the rvr game mechanic issues(realm abilitys etc.) allcap not neccessary,i agree, but other things should be tested with allcap, and also all test chars should be same rr.

Another issue,how can we test melee styles, if there is no information about current patch growthrates of the styles?honestly i couldnt find any source for it. nixian charplaner doesnt give any info about growthrates etc...
if anyone got a good source,i would be happy for that

You can easily google style growth rates for 1.65.

oracle wrote:no allcap armor makes no sence for test for melee/cast dmg or defence formulas etc.

for the rvr game mechanic issues(realm abilitys etc.) allcap not neccessary,i agree, but other things should be tested with allcap, and also all test chars should be same rr.

Another issue,how can we test melee styles, if there is no information about current patch growthrates of the styles?honestly i couldnt find any source for it. nixian charplaner doesnt give any info about growthrates etc...
if anyone got a good source,i would be happy for that

There have been multiple groups in full cap gear from all realms for at least two months testing this. Admittedly it has become very quiet since i30 on the 50 RVR front , but a lot of vet players have been running emain full capped in beta, so it's not like it's untested.

Here is your link for growth rates:

http://talsyra.tripod.com/daocmechanics/realm_style_growths.html

Torgo wrote:

Equade wrote:

Torgo wrote:Will unlimited RA and regular respecs be available so we can test out various combinations of RAs/Specs?

(if that is the case now and I just didn't realize it, plz disregard)

I can't get myself to disregard this as someone above also asked for this.

In the maximum 25 lines of text it says "free respecs".

Get in the game, lads..

"free respecs" could be interpreted in a few different ways...it did not say "unlimited realm and skill line respecs"..even if that was the intent.

I'm proud of you that you interpreted it one way. Maybe English isn't your 1st language so I will give you a pass. No crime in asking for clarity.

It is not but it hurts to hear insinuations of my deficiencies as I primarily speak it in my everyday life. Would be boring if there was nothing more to learn.

Anyhow, it is clearly unlimited free respecs. Otherwise, transfer gear and reroll. There's your endless supply. But it will be unlimited as they want us to test as many options as possible.

YOLKD wrote:lol the point of cap gear is too test spell/melee damage variations on max resists, spell/melee damage variations with capped specs and attributes. its not to test how much your LGM crafter can charge for people looking for SC. its not to test how long it will take to farm specific gear from mobs.

everyone who is against cap gear is just trying to push their small and simple minded agenda to 1 up the competition for a BETA test.

in reality keeping cap gear out, only prolongs testing and keeps us all from the release. i honestly still think you people dont know everything you have done in this phase will be deleted.

Exactly, everyone that is against capped gear already has their perfect templates and dosent want the rvr to be on a even ground.

Xenosapien wrote:

YOLKD wrote:lol the point of cap gear is too test spell/melee damage variations on max resists, spell/melee damage variations with capped specs and attributes. its not to test how much your LGM crafter can charge for people looking for SC. its not to test how long it will take to farm specific gear from mobs.

everyone who is against cap gear is just trying to push their small and simple minded agenda to 1 up the competition for a BETA test.

in reality keeping cap gear out, only prolongs testing and keeps us all from the release. i honestly still think you people dont know everything you have done in this phase will be deleted.

Exactly, everyone that is against capped gear already has their perfect templates and dosent want the rvr to be on a even ground.

Maybe instead of no-life-ing your own life you should have took the time to play and test the beta and template yourself if you wanted to test rvr in beta and be on even ground?

Forgive me if I am wrong but I thought we were here to play and test, not whine and get a free ride. <shrug>