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Postby Colpach » Apr 01, 2013 19:38

Could a friar make a viable healer?

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Postby majky666 » Apr 02, 2013 06:57

dont think so
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Postby imamizer » Apr 05, 2013 11:42

For PvE yes. I have done taj2 with my heal friar and it works well. Since you only use quick baseline, any friar with comp 50 rej spec can replace cleric for pve groups. With red self D/Q and some aug dex, you cast at lightning speed. But ppl needs to use charges for spec buffs since you cant give them. Group hots are never useful and waste of power 99% of the time. If the agro is stable you heal only one member, if not you heal two. Only used my group hot for bad dia groups lol.

For RvR you are cleric with;
-elemental resists, det and useless group hot (even if multiple members need heals, they will be full after cleric casts spec group heal)
without;
-80% instat single heal
-50% instant group heal (even %75)
-spreadheal when NSd
-greater heal for emergency
-spec group heal
-Perfect Recovery
-Barrier of Fortitude
-Divine Intervention
So you can't replace a cleric but maybe usable in a 2x cleri 1 friar setup. But what will you replace?

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Postby Dirtymind » Apr 05, 2013 11:54

On live running in RVR with friar was kinda viable due to body guard ability? But not here.. even in Thid friars suck for 8v8 and are only grouped cos of lack of clerics.

Either use friar for some solo or duo farming with pala, or get red resists and park at dragon spot for dragon raids... or put some sweat into it and make it a stealth hunter - they do pretty well with ip, purge and stun field.

Edit:Also for small men friar is ok.
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Postby Smokey » Apr 05, 2013 12:54

imamizer wrote:For PvE yes. I have done taj2 with my heal friar and it works well. Since you only use quick baseline, any friar with comp 50 rej spec can replace cleric for pve groups. With red self D/Q and some aug dex, you cast at lightning speed. But ppl needs to use charges for spec buffs since you cant give them. Group hots are never useful and waste of power 99% of the time. If the agro is stable you heal only one member, if not you heal two. Only used my group hot for bad dia groups lol.

For RvR you are cleric with;
-elemental resists, det and useless group hot (even if multiple members need heals, they will be full after cleric casts spec group heal)
without;
-80% instat single heal
-50% instant group heal (even %75)
-spreadheal when NSd
-greater heal for emergency
-spec group heal
-Perfect Recovery
-Barrier of Fortitude
-Divine Intervention
So you can't replace a cleric but maybe usable in a 2x cleri 1 friar setup. But what will you replace?


A merc :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOC1AnEq-VY


it might not be the best alb setup ever, but its rly fun ;)

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Postby imamizer » Apr 05, 2013 15:31

Smokey wrote:
imamizer wrote:For PvE yes. I have done taj2 with my heal friar and it works well. Since you only use quick baseline, any friar with comp 50 rej spec can replace cleric for pve groups. With red self D/Q and some aug dex, you cast at lightning speed. But ppl needs to use charges for spec buffs since you cant give them. Group hots are never useful and waste of power 99% of the time. If the agro is stable you heal only one member, if not you heal two. Only used my group hot for bad dia groups lol.

For RvR you are cleric with;
-elemental resists, det and useless group hot (even if multiple members need heals, they will be full after cleric casts spec group heal)
without;
-80% instat single heal
-50% instant group heal (even %75)
-spreadheal when NSd
-greater heal for emergency
-spec group heal
-Perfect Recovery
-Barrier of Fortitude
-Divine Intervention
So you can't replace a cleric but maybe usable in a 2x cleri 1 friar setup. But what will you replace?


A merc :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOC1AnEq-VY


it might not be the best alb setup ever, but its rly fun ;)

I'm sure it's fun but Sanmiguel is rr10, if he was playin rr10 merc that would be fun too :P

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Postby Smokey » Apr 05, 2013 15:59

well we also ran with my rr4 friar or spookis rr4 friar ::)

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Postby relvinian » Apr 06, 2013 12:34

The hot is useless. So heal friar is like a severely gimped cleric.

While we have the topic of friar what is the best spec for solo at 50 4l2?

What RA's would you reccommend?
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

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Postby Dirtymind » Apr 06, 2013 13:00

IP2, Purge1, Static 1 - something like that
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Postby relvinian » Apr 06, 2013 14:48

Thank you.
https://www.uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37632

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 11, 2013 15:44

Heal friars are definitely viable in grp rvr (2clerics + healfriar) Cold resists are very good against every hib/mid grp that has an eld or rm. The rr5 disarm is decent for grp rvr. People think that albs need the slot for any dps but albs win through rupt, not through burst vor high dps.
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Postby _Oglop_ » Apr 11, 2013 16:05

I always find it frustrating when fighting an Albion group that runs a Friar or Paladin that runs Cold Resist.

I think the class is highly underrated.
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Postby imamizer » Apr 11, 2013 23:02

Nef Melody wrote:Heal friars are definitely viable in grp rvr (2clerics + healfriar) Cold resists are very good against every hib/mid grp that has an eld or rm. The rr5 disarm is decent for grp rvr. People think that albs need the slot for any dps but albs win through rupt, not through burst vor high dps.

48 enh friar gives 24 cold resist, 48 chant pala gives 30 (cold shield and elemental shield stacks). You don't even have to twist resists all the time, only when rm/eld is free casting. A dps class is not only needed for burst dmg I think. Merc/arms has stoi and slam, body casters gives extra cc also. Friar offers only a low duration disarm with 10 min RUT. :)

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Postby Nef Melody » Apr 13, 2013 02:57

imamizer wrote:48 enh friar gives 24 cold resist, 48 chant pala gives 30 (cold shield and elemental shield stacks). You don't even have to twist resists all the time, only when rm/eld is free casting.


paladins are rarely pushed in deep to be in range for the ones that get damaged by cold nukers and 1 mind sorc is enough for both mezzes and demezz.
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