Hello,

I've already spent a couple hours searching the forum for an answer on how Sorcerer charm currently works in Uthgard.
The most I can find is a post from 2012, where it is not clear if Charm was ever fixed to be like Live (able to charm monsters your level regardless of Mind spec).

Does anyone know how charm is currently working for Sorc?
Do you need to have Mind trained to your level to be able to charm yellow-con pets?
Say at Level 25 I only have 15 mind (third charm spell), can I charm level 24-25 pets?

This looks about right:
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads/a-noobs-guide-to-sorcs-please.138797/

1 in mind for up to lvl 10 mobs
7 in mind for up to lvl 15 mobs
12 in mind for up to lvl 26 mobs
20 in mind for up to lvl 40 mobs
32 in mind for up to lvl 50 mobs

Thanks for the reply -

I had already found that list, however that is only talking about max level charmable for each charm spell. It does not mention if you also need to have Mind spec trained par with level to be able to charm at max level.

You get new Charm spell at those levels (1, 7, 12, 20, 32). Each charm spell is capped to a certain level, so that Third Charm (Lvl 12) can only charm up to Level26 mobs.

Also, I am asking specifically for UTHGARD since post history suggests that it was/is bugged here.

My question is:
Do you also need to have your Mind spec trained up to your level? So Third Charm (lvl12) allows you to charm up to lvl26, but do you also need to have Mind spec up to 26 at Level 26 for this to work?

Rokiater wrote:Do you also need to have your Mind spec trained up to your level? So Third Charm (lvl12) allows you to charm up to lvl26, but do you also need to have Mind spec up to 26 at Level 26 for this to work?

Nope. Also remember that +Mind from skills / RR basically* doesn't do anything.

* Some live tests I did with debuffs showed that you might get a tiny (1-2 points) more stat debuff with a 10 skill difference using a spec debuff like that in Mind. My test was with the Dex/Qui spec debuff though.

Keep in mind that if your Mind spec is low enough you can fail a charm even if the charm spell should work on the mob, but this is fixed by simply recasting charm.