Until recently when the Daonian Fishermen drop rate bug was fixed it used to be the cash calf (not a full cow like the rab claws on mid). (I also do not understand what you GMs also stacked them into tight groups and made the fishermen and farmers agro... so un classic)

So I find myself trying to grow up 2 alb crafters and can find no cash cow comparable to the mids crab claw farming.

It was suggested that the lizards in Barrows were comparable with stacking loot and all. But there is only like 10 of them, they die and u wait for a respawn. I am on a matter cabby and would like a camp that has more victims to my ubberness.

On mid u can farm claws, they stack so you do not have to far to travel (Gna Faste) when you do sell. 100 claws plus all the additional loot = about 950 gold. And a 50 skald can get that in about 30 minutes. There is no salvage involved and since the loot stacks a person can get to 300 w/o needing to sell.

The Daonians were a far cry short of that pre bug fix because:
A: the camps are deep in Lyoness, travel time was a bugger.
B: rare sell item gems would stack but otherwise your cash drops were salvageable chain and staffs. So your inventory filled up fast. And the nearest merch for the non salvage loot was Western Corn. Factor in the travel time and loot capacity and it started to suck.
C: Now you have to salvage all those staffs and chain parts and trinket.

As a matter cabby that can wipe 5-8 Daonian Fishermen at a time getting the loot was not the issue. After 5 camp kills my inventory was full or I was encumbered. That was the issue.

So at full speed I was looking at 1 plat per hour after all the travel and kill and salvage and trinket.

So Mids have a distinct advantage now in cash farming since the closest thing to a good farm was just "Bug Fixed". The result of cash being hard to come by on Alb makes the crafters there hard to come by. I don't see any looking for crafter spam in /b. In mid people make stuff for each other all the time and are constantly hooking up via /b.

So Albs, where to go get the money now?

And GMs. Was this bug fix really needed? This bug was not that wonderful in comparison to what other realms have legitimately. You did hurt Alb economically, unless I am wrong and there is a farm somewhere I do not know about.

Yes, this bugfix was really needed. A monster dropping at least 1item per kill
is just ... buggy. The Midgard clawspot will be reviewed as soon as we have
got time.

Haldan

The crabs on live drop at about the same rate. It is regular loot, so that one is not a bug. Mids have always enjoyed this cash cow.

My question is to the rest of the Albs at this point...

Does anybody know of anything that compares so that I can farm some cash to level my crafters?



PS. Since you GMs dont seem to want to relent and allow the Daonians to be a source for albs to get a good cash camp comparable to the mids normal claw camps.

i tried farming money on live in spindelhalla crab spot last year, the error at the crab spot is that one claw on uthgard is worth like one full stack of claws on live server.

i think changing it to live values is the wrong way, cause the staff cant test every single loot item, and just changing one would imbalance everthing, i think its the same with every other stacking item

i don't know any stacked drops in albion worth any money, i used to farm in dart, but 95% of the drops there are bugged and sell for peanuts (1.5 gold) so it's a pain to run up and down to sell the crappy stuff, lyoness was good, some stuf could be salvaged, but it took 10 min to get to the nearest selling point, over a year ago SB was a great place to farm, till mobs had loads of sex so there where like 1000 of them in there, and they didn't drop like before, so it became dangerous to solo and not worth going in cause minimal drop rates and again, loads of bugged drops..

cornwall drakes are an option, they drop a salvagable sword, and some stuff you can sell, they are fairly near cornwall station, but you won't make a plat in an hour off them cause they are too few to go with grp, last time i went they where neutral so you should be able to pa em withouth getting the whole troup on your back... but maybe they got changed...

atm, there is no spot in albion that will give you good money, not that i know, and i bet, if there is one, the few that know it will not tel us

i try to make crafters out of all my higher chars to ba able to salvage, but as long as all those drops are bugged it is no use to spend the time and the money...

maybe someone else want's to tell us abouth a good spot but i fear there is none atm

i tried farming money on live in spindelhalla crab spot last year, the error at the crab spot is that one claw on uthgard is worth like one full stack of claws on live server.

i think changing it to live values is the wrong way, cause the staff cant test every single loot item, and just changing one would imbalance everthing, i think its the same with every other stacking item

so you think, mids gettin 10 times the money as on live is normal, and changin that spot to live would imbalance things??? waht a bunch of crap, if albs would be able to salvage the drops they get nobody would whine,

we too need money for armour and weaps, our economy is non exixtent, someone needing armor, sc or weapons has to beg for someone making it for mat price cuz nobody can pay any extra's...

a lot of crafters don't even bother to react when someone wan't crafted stuff cause we know they can't pay for it anyway...

only way to get good stuff atm is to join a guild and beg them to make you some stuff, i bet you can count the albs having all MP gear in the fingers on both hands, and most of em made their gear with their own crafters or got massive help from guildies..
and you say that mids should keep they'r bugged money farming spot to keep things balanced???

sigh....

that realy makes me sad

This was my entire point that the GMs did not take into consideration. They saw a bug and changed it w/o considering the fact that the players in Alb are at a severe disadvantage when it comes to cash. The one place that was decent but nowhere near the mids crab claws was eliminated. The daonian farmers was it. Now I am currently looking all over but as you said, the drops salvage for 1 arc bar or some crappy ass straps are a complete waste of time.

Albs were already at a disadvantage. Now it looks to be a total loss in the crafting department. I challenge any GM to get online in Mid and make a lvl 35 toon and spam for a crafter in Mid and in Alb. Hell go and ask the crafters standing around the forge for something and see the difference in attitude between the two realms. I joined the biggest playing guild in Alb and asked for gear (i would pay) for my braemar toon... I got the "I dont craft for low levels". In mid when somebody gets breamar level my guild there sets him up free of charge with jewels and player made SCed gear free of charge. Cash makes the whole society and game enjoyment in Mid 10x better.

To say that your going to review the mids cash spot is irrelevant. My 3 Legendary crafters there and everybody I know has ++plat sitting on the toons with nothing to spend it on. Mids baseline wealth is already huge comparatively.

Please give us the farmers back. It is not that wonderful of a spot but at least it was something.

Just tell us where the cash cow in Mid is and we review it. Bugfixes are a normal way to get balanced and live like. If there are open bugs in other realms that have strong influence on balance then tell us.

Some time ago Mids made a money hack, but we erased every trace of this bug use incl the accounts.

Blue

well this is somewhat Offtopic but, im a lgm ac....and i can keep spamming for jobs in br or as...nuffing....no1 wants armor or every has ac in there guilds ^^
The fact that TLK has a no lowby toons attidude is there deal but if any1 comes to me with a forward offer,what he wants and howmuch he will pay for it i will make the armor, there just aint that many people who aparently want it ^^. End of OT.

nealry every loot is bugged and to worth too much. and one stack in spindelhalla is 20 claws when i remeber right. but monty does it helps you get money when mids cant farm money too?

Pinky wrote:nealry every loot is bugged

I like such detailed statements

thats my subjektive feeling in comparsion to live^^ when i started playing on live i thought: man, i got 2 bags full of level 50 weapons, that must be worth over 100 gold, but it was worth only 40gold or so^^

noone on live is selling his weapondrops to the merchants, they put it into their housing merchants and the lows buy them for 30-40g each

edit: or they salvage it XD

@Pinky OT: Please reduce the size of your sig as the contrast hurts the eye and the display space is not wasted. Also editing is better than making new post behind the own one. Thanks.

cash cow in albion ... uhm ...

there is none left tbh ... go to stonehenge and hope for some salvageble stuff, or go hunt goblins in lyonesse and hope for the same


since they fixed the salvagebug there is no REAL cashcow anymore ... (shame on those that used it !, myself at least can say: i've reported it)


and hey, you do not need to skill your own crafters, there are plenty of in albion (although most are lazy)