I was wondering if pet damage was still messed up and in what state the bonedancer class is in.

BDs are in the same state they have always been: overpowered.

Who cares about the crappy pets?

BD's are alright here. Rupt code is getting better so their instas are going to be more valuable. Probably one of the few casters you could solo on effectively. The pets are crap, you get a green main pet at 50 and that's it.

Overall an RM brings more to most groups, but well played, a BD is still a good addition.

i think bd outshines sm in a group. bd has a nice group buff. their pet works pretty much like sm pet here instead of the live like pet army. from what i've seen this modified pet system for bd doesn't really reduce the class' effectiveness, however.

i imagine in the interest of continuity and accuracy the staff will eventually work on their pets. at the moment they have many other projects in mind and this is probably very low priority. i feel that pet code has been traditionally one of the most complex scripts to work on for this staff and bd probably has the most unique and difficult to make work reliably. we'll just have to wait and see

Astealoth wrote:i think bd outshines sm in a group. bd has a nice group buff. their pet works pretty much like sm pet here instead of the live like pet army. from what i've seen this modified pet system for bd doesn't really reduce the class' effectiveness, however.

Demezz, red ae dq debuff, blue ae strcon debuff, haste debuff, a lot better pet(stun proc + near invulnerability vs melee), pbaoe for petclear, 46s single mez, 30s aoe mez.

How does bd outshine a sm in the group ? Because of a 9% abs buff ?

Compring them is stupid anyway.

Want castdmg and already have 2 rms for debuff and ns? Take a sm.
Want rupt? Take a bd.

Heho,

BD just better for Tankgroups, because it can rupt very well and it is a good petcleaner as long there is a little bit rupt on the theurg.
SM have a high utlity, but more for a caster group. It don't have a instant dmg or aoe dmg for pet clear. So if it is in rupt every qickcast one pet or with bomb it first have to run in the pets, thats to less for a tank group.

Like Force said

Overall an RM brings more to most groups, but well played, a BD is still a good addition.

Sometimes Bd are better for a group then rms.

Greetz Luydor

BD is only better than other casters because it can lock down one caster while being rupted himself, if not cced. Tbh when I fight groups with a bonedancer it makes me happy knowing they have a mage that does no damage and has no utility

Disdain wrote:BD is only better than other casters because it can lock down one caster while being rupted himself, if not cced. Tbh when I fight groups with a bonedancer it makes me happy knowing they have a mage that does no damage and has no utility

Seems like you have never played against a good bonedancer

Not on uthgard no, and I've played against all of them. Not that someone can be good on a class that has such limited use in a group anyway. On live they're really annoying I'll give you that.

Disdain wrote:Not on uthgard no, and I've played against all of them. Not that someone can be good on a class that has such limited use in a group anyway. On live they're really annoying I'll give you that.

Nothing to add to that except for:

2 sec instant rupt, Snare nukes, Baseline nukes which are quiet efficient vs albs at least. ABS Buffs for your own group. A Pet (okay which is gimped but at least a bit stronger than the usual druid pet if with the usual 42/33/7 spec) Base Dex and Str debuffs.

And it's not my fault that nobody plays that class to its limit. As BD you can easily perm rupt 2 targets und kill somebody else with nukes at the same time.

But you are right. You can't play that gimp class with no utility at all in 8v8.

You can't perma rupt 2 targets on uthgard with just 2 instas. You can barely permarupt one if you time them perfectly. This isn't live ^^

You don't read patchnotes m8 Blue just fixed interrupt

I read them and I play the game almost every day and rupting isn't THAT much different than before, I still get random 1-2 sec timers, never 3 sec, can't doublerupt myself by spamming, still can cast 1 second after getting hit. Definitely a long way from livelike, but his work is appreciated nonetheless.

Atasi wrote:You don't read patchnotes m8 Blue just fixed interrupt

no sorry, its closer to being livelike but still quite a bit off.