Where and how do Mids farm PVE?

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Zob
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Postby Zob » Sep 09, 2017 02:59

Synderen wrote:
Zob wrote:Used to farm Jarl.

GM's broke that for no reason.


They did not... It was broke in the beginning and they actually fixed it.. :lol:


Jarl has always been kiteable. At this patch level on live no mob ever had a speed greater than someone sprinting.

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Postby Freudinio » Sep 10, 2017 04:20

Eorkern wrote:Any idea why Etched ice bracer were taken off the snow vendos loot table ?


It was? That seems oppressive.
Just about done..

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Postby Zob » Sep 10, 2017 19:41

I literally have no idea why GM's ****** with Dodens.

- Wolves / Yetis were the best spot to pl with a Cave Sham (and god knows Mid is the hardest realm to PL outside of SH raids).
- Jarl and Vendos were the best place to solo farm and now you can't kite Jarl anymore and Vendos don't drop Etched Ice Bracer.

Another QOL change that made PVE live even crappier.

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Postby madskaizer » Sep 11, 2017 15:14

To help track drop rate statistics, you can use the uthgard 2.0 bestiary, but it needs much more information to be precise, so help out by simply making chatlogs while you do PVE, its easy and I would really love to get more data from you guys :)

All there is to know on how to do it: http://disorder.dk/daoc/bestiary/submit.php
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Postby Severian » Sep 11, 2017 16:19

Zob wrote:I literally have no idea why GM's ****** with Dodens.


Yeah, they 'fix' things that aren't broken. And leave things be that need changes. Odd. Not sure why the world works this way, but it often does.
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Postby Estat » Sep 11, 2017 18:43

Eorkern wrote:Any idea why Etched ice bracer were taken off the snow vendos loot table ?
Is there a (reliable) source for that or is it just the usual conspiracy theory after some bad rng?

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Postby Eorkern » Sep 12, 2017 10:43

farmed snow vendos for countless hours since they moved thane into the cave and lowered hamar hp, no bracer

and i really mean a lot of hours, so droprate is very very very low and unlucky or no drop anymore

And we also drop a lot more etched from hamar than before now

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Postby Stressed » Sep 12, 2017 16:55

Eorkern wrote:farmed snow vendos for countless hours since they moved thane into the cave and lowered hamar hp, no bracer

and i really mean a lot of hours, so droprate is very very very low and unlucky or no drop anymore

And we also drop a lot more etched from hamar than before now


You were lucky farmed Hamar for 12 hours, no drops

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Postby madskaizer » Sep 12, 2017 17:04

Do they drop more ROGs now?

It could be that they are pushing other drops out of the tables from higher drop rates, I explained this some time ago here: viewtopic.php?p=441567#p441567

The only thing that can be done is more killing and in theory all statistics would even out to get as close to reality as possible, just like a logarithmic function will always near zero, but will never reach it.

Some times I also have the feeling that suddenly there was a new drop, but looking at many of the drop rates, its below 1%, letstake a example of 0.8% drop rate and even if you killed the monster 100 times, there is only a 55% chance you would see that item drop. ( drop chance calculator: http://en.calc-site.com/probabilities/drop_item )

So I think we are just going to need at least 1000 kills on each monster to be have statistics that are 99,96% true, but thats only taken 1 item into account, the monster might have 50 items in its drop table, but now what if its limited to drop a maximum of 1 or 2 at a time? then we can add that factor on it too and we need a wooping 50000 kills a monster to be sure :gaga:
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Postby Eorkern » Sep 12, 2017 20:15

Hamar Drops Glacial diamond ring and Ice Etched bracer now

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Postby Zob » Sep 13, 2017 00:24

Glacial Diamond Ring should drop from the little dog who becomes big, not Hamar. :D

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Postby unty » Sep 13, 2017 03:13

alot of loot tables changed after broadsword released its live item DB, previously etched ice bracer droppep from hamar and snow vendos on uthgard, as suggested by allakazam. The live DB shows this item only dropping from Hamar, hence the change i guess. As well as glaciar emerald ring moved to different mob too and im sure many more not known yet.

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Postby wonshot » Sep 13, 2017 15:42

Eorkern wrote:Hamar Drops Glacial diamond ring and Ice Etched bracer now


So is Hamar the only known mob to drop Etched bracer now?
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Postby Eorkern » Sep 14, 2017 01:39

I've only seen it drop from him now.

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