Botting, Radaring & Exploiting?

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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 16:06

I read the rules that says no botting and I actually love that but is it actually enforced? I don't like to follow rules that is not being follow by everyone else, I would rather not play at all. But .... I was thinking about coming here from live and was just curious with it being a freeshard and all is botting kept in check, radar use etc etc?

The big thing is botters because if I cannot bot then I want to make sure the entire server is hampered in such a way as well.

and no I am not asking this to see if I can get away with it lol I just have a dislike for freeshards because most have staff that simply do not enforce what they say is forbidden.

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Postby Neju » May 29, 2010 16:08

check the size of the ban section - all rules get enforced



strictly!

:grin:
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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 16:10

I did :)

I like the idea of no botting, that is music to my ears. I didn't see any bans for radar though although I just skimmed through some, radar bad here?



PS: oh and ello midgard :)

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Postby Neju » May 29, 2010 16:13

radar doesn't seem to be used too much (if at all)

there are sometimes when you get funny inc at unexpected spots.. but it happens so infrequently that i doubt its radar.
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Postby Force » May 29, 2010 16:19

I honestly don't think radar would be an advantage anymore.

I have noticed that you can only target someone here that is within clip range. On live I recall being able to keep target outside of clipping range, and even target someone using 'last attacker' before they came within clipping range. I also remember Sanya saying that players were loaded outside of clipping range to reduce inc lag. Here it seems everyone gets loaded when they enter clipping range.

Sanya said the reason radar worked (after the stopped the packet sniffing) was that it was showing you on the overlay map those players who were loaded outside of clip range.

Here I think it would only show people already in clip range. Making its only real benefit that you wouldn't need to pan I guess.


As far as bots go, the only way you could get away with botting is if you had two totally separate IPs, or a significant other or someone else ALWAYS nearby to play your bot if needed. This would ONLY work in PvE, so the advantage you got, and risked a ban over, would be minimal and only pve related anyway.

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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 16:30

I like the sound of that. It wont let me create a DAoC folder for uthgard unless I uninstall live /sigh which I will do. I'll be mid for sure

thanks for the info, I might actually enjoy it here ;)

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Postby nixian » May 29, 2010 16:36

Neju wrote:check the size of the ban section - all rules get enforced



strictly!

:grin:


This is very true :)

and often radar just get shown as: "Third party program/hacking"

so :) people do get banned for all of those things..

and remember there is a difference between botting and dual logging :)

you might find a lower lvl player with a lvl 50 player stuck on his ass :) but you can be sure that it is 2 different persons playing :) as dual logging gets punished.. hard :P

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Postby Zarkor » May 29, 2010 16:45

Damaja wrote:I like the sound of that. It wont let me create a DAoC folder for uthgard unless I uninstall live /sigh which I will do. I'll be mid for sure

thanks for the info, I might actually enjoy it here ;)


As long as you approach Uthgard with the idea that chances of enjoying it are little to none, you might actually manage to have unexpected fun here and there. ;)

Good luck and welcome!



Edit:PS: Always good to see more determined Mids :)

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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 17:05

nixian wrote:
Neju wrote:
and remember there is a difference between botting and dual logging :)

you might find a lower lvl player with a lvl 50 player stuck on his ass :) but you can be sure that it is 2 different persons playing :) as dual logging gets punished.. hard :P


Well I do have a 3 PC set up ... I might have a friend that just stays afk alot and sticks to me while he is afk as we are leveling up and he just might happen to be a shaman :)

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Postby Zarkor » May 29, 2010 18:48

Damaja wrote:Well I do have a 3 PC set up ... I might have a friend that just stays afk alot and sticks to me while he is afk as we are leveling up and he just might happen to be a shaman :)


Living on the edge eh? :p

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Postby Force » May 29, 2010 19:09

Damaja wrote:
nixian wrote:
Neju wrote:
and remember there is a difference between botting and dual logging :)

you might find a lower lvl player with a lvl 50 player stuck on his ass :) but you can be sure that it is 2 different persons playing :) as dual logging gets punished.. hard :P


Well I do have a 3 PC set up ... I might have a friend that just stays afk alot and sticks to me while he is afk as we are leveling up and he just might happen to be a shaman :)



If you are on the same network or have similar IPs, your friend needs to log out anytime they are AFK. Otherwise youll get a ban for botting.

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Postby anselm » May 29, 2010 20:44

Damaja wrote:
Well I do have a 3 PC set up ... I might have a friend that just stays afk alot and sticks to me while he is afk as we are leveling up and he just might happen to be a shaman :)


Not a good idea! A friend of mine tried this and and was banned very quickly.

Instead of wasting your time trying to get around the rules, be proactive about setting up groups using the LFG chat channel. It's more fun too!

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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 20:59

nleh was hoping it was not THAT serious, ahh well will make a soloable class to play then. Looking forward to this server/.

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Postby nixian » May 29, 2010 21:04

Damaja wrote:nleh was hoping it was not THAT serious, ahh well will make a soloable class to play then. Looking forward to this server/.


the dual logging rules are.. SERIOUS.. don't try and fool the staff, just look at the ban section to see what staff does to people why try to do that

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Postby Damaja » May 29, 2010 22:54

I am hehe I just had to test the waters :)

Will make a single acct no worries

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