shadowzerk spec @50

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Postby krasatos » Jul 09, 2010 13:59

hey,
was thinkin of this spec for lvl50, and about rr3-rr4 which will be easy to get while leveling etc...

44la for IB
36swo for a total of 50 points in sword
36stealth for the same reason as below
36poisons for lifebane and
21cs for PA fun +garotte's anytime snare

what do u think?
with this setup i got some points unspent, where shall i put em?
share em around to be capped at rr3? maybe train em in cs to get some more dmg in that line? more LA will have any effect? sword spec caps at 50 right? no point training more there... (36+14) or will more swo increase my weaponskill?

feel free to correct me, ive been inactive for too long so im open to suggestions

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Postby Razzer » Jul 09, 2010 14:20

Should work good for lowRR.

I prefer 5spec with 39LA/34CS but I think your spec is also decent.
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Postby krasatos » Jul 09, 2010 14:31

Razzer wrote:Should work good for lowRR.

I prefer 5spec with 39LA/34CS but I think your spec is also decent.


it should be ok, for rr5+spec
35st
35poisons
39la
34cs
35swo

but until then, i think ill stick to SZ and loose CD for better allaround stats.
also, no need to train la/sword over 50 right? or is it 51?
except of the styles u get, there is no other gain?

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Postby Razzer » Jul 09, 2010 14:38

When you use Sword styles your styledamage will grow with spec but the variance will be same with 51 composite or 50+11+X.

For LA every point is useful cause of the LA malus.
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Postby krasatos » Jul 09, 2010 14:50

Razzer wrote:When you use Sword styles your styledamage will grow with spec but the variance will be same with 51 composite or 50+11+X.

For LA every point is useful cause of the LA malus.


ok, so more LA -> more dmg even if i train la to 50, it will still have result...
on the other hand, i didnt quite get what u said about sword dmg :(
please explain :D

do u mean "51 composite or 36+11+x" cause i dont understand

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Postby Razzer » Jul 09, 2010 15:29

composite 51 means 36+11+4

When using sword styles you do more styledamage having 50+11+x than having 36+11+x but it's not worth specing to 50 cause you won't really use sword styles and you have better lines to spec as SB.
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Postby vangonaj » Jul 09, 2010 16:08

For rr4 go to:

50 LA
36 weapon
36 stealth
36 envenom
10 cs
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Postby Astealoth » Jul 10, 2010 03:16

why even bother speccing the 10 cs. even with 10+14 CS your damage calculation on those styles is so low it's a waste to use them.

my planned rr6 spec is...

39 axe
50 LA
34 venom
34 stealth

my current rr5 spec is...

37 axe
50 LA
35 venom
35 stealth

this spec rocks everything. reaver, merc, infil, ranger. dont matter. if nothing adds it will die. relying on pa/cd is for loonies.

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Postby Gotta » Jul 10, 2010 08:18

but i dont know why more axe...the dmg output shouldnt be higher, outa youre using an lvl 50 style

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Postby Astealoth » Jul 10, 2010 10:06

Gotta wrote:but i dont know why more axe...the dmg output shouldnt be higher, outa youre using an lvl 50 style


the 39 and 44 axe styles are nice too. i have an alt bar for using 2h as well. all CS does is give you more styles, it does nothing for your character's damage. if you cant fit high CS in your spec then you might as well get other styles that arent completely nerfed. i say if you dont have at least 34+16 cs you might as well skip it entirely.

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Postby LION » Jul 10, 2010 11:02

Well, I skipped CS so far on my SB (48 so far), but I realized that I lag of the BT penetration ability of CS styles.
If I go after a caster I get lucky if 1 weapon hits and poison is applied.

I also realize that I lag of attack speed.
What weapons do u use in left/right hand - I use 2.9/4.0, what I think is standard.

I run without any buffpots so far thats why I am so slow?

My thoughts on speccing until RR5:

Stealth 36
Env 35
LA 50
Weap 35
CS 15 - Backstab II for BT penetration and short stun on caster
2 points left because I quit autotrain befor lvl 48

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Postby Gotta » Jul 10, 2010 12:56

the penetration skills are the skills which are getting ya most times the upper hand...but only if you can land them

but no cs = all

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Postby nixian » Jul 10, 2010 12:59

All you need to penetrate bubble is 10 CS for backstab ;)

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Postby Gotta » Jul 10, 2010 13:05

ah no, i explained wrong

i mean...the cs styles...do they have af debuff and so on?

if not cs is always the best choice for evade skills cause of high def bonus
and on the other hand, we all like the pa + cd!!

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Postby nixian » Jul 10, 2010 13:08

Gotta wrote:ah no, i explained wrong

i mean...the cs styles...do they have af debuff and so on?

if not cs is always the best choice for evade skills cause of high def bonus
and on the other hand, we all like the pa + cd!!


No they do not, this is classic daoc.


And no CS is NOT useless.. its one of the highest GR styles that is there and with 50+17 CS I do PA chains for close to 1000 damage unbuffed. so no.. CS is not useless ;)

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