My hunter is Gimped!

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hammeron
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Postby hammeron » Apr 20, 2011 02:25

My hunter used to ROCK in the bgs. Now for some reason he has become gimped. I don't think anything has changed as far as armor or weapon/bow that he is using, Here are his stats:

Str 73/73 unbuffed
Con 73/73
Dex 263/264
Qui 233/233

Cru 23/25
Sla 24/25
all other resists capped 25/25

Stealth 37 +15 w/mos 3
Beast 42 +2
Spear 39 +11
Bow 30+10

All of my armor is mp except chest is 99%
Spear is 99% 4.5 speed
Physical defense 3
ignor pain 1

Can anyone tell me what's wrong and what I am missing? I use potions for dex +20 and yellow weapon speed haste and get my ass handed to me all the time. I used to be a mean mofo in mele but he just seems so much weaker now. Did something change on the server in the code that makes him weaker? Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks

hammeron

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Postby toaky » Apr 20, 2011 05:11

hammeron wrote:Dex 263/264
Qui 233/233


...wat?

is this including armor, base, and buffs or something? /confused cause you have unbuffed written in before that and what seems to be just the stat bonus from armor

also, what are you fighting and losing to?
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Postby hammeron » Apr 20, 2011 05:24

DEX and QUI is with my own buffs - Str and Con are not buffed - (just ignore the unbuffed) - and also the stealth +15 is a mistake - its 37 + 13

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Postby hammeron » Apr 20, 2011 05:58

oh and im losing to just about anything...lol i scared to attack anything anymore cuz ill just die!!!

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Postby hammeron » Apr 20, 2011 06:08

oh and :

Hit Points 1249
Armor factor 674

Spear Weapon Skill 1071, weapon damage 1574
Bow weapon skill 1321, weapon damage 1574

thanks to any who respond

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Postby Kiksens » Apr 20, 2011 08:58

Haven't heard about any recent changes to hunters, you probably just fought ppl with less skill/bad equipment earlier. Hunters have been gimps on uthgard as long as I remember :D

My hunter is rr6 and speced 35+16 bow, 42+16 spear, 40+16 bc, mos5, pd3 and augdex2. To win against an assassin I need to start with a critshot(hence the mos5) which hit for around 500-600 damage and then try to finish him off in melee, strafing a backside stun.

In the end it comes down to luck.. one time I remember getting a rr11 infi down to 5% hp with arrows before he managed to melee me and believe it or not but I lost because he evaded all my hits. However if one of my arrows had critted for like 100 more damage he would have died and I had been full hp.

To be succesful try to avoid melee for as long as u can and if it still happens make sure you don't forget to use the right damage type spear (slash/thrust).

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Postby holsten-knight » Apr 20, 2011 10:23

you are still in BG or you entered the world of adult pvp? That would explain everything, lot of people think they rock in bg, epic fail in end rvr and start there next toon for BG to think they are uber pro again :D

But seriously, hunter does rock in Braemar, a litlle less in wilton, a lot less in thidranki and is quite bad in end rvr... get used to it.

and the only recent changes regarding hunter i know of were bug fixes in favour of the hunter (better growth rates on speer etc.).

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Postby vangonaj » Apr 20, 2011 15:15

I dont know where is the problem. Remember you are hunter.
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Postby Seyha » Apr 20, 2011 17:11

Why do you lose?
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Postby pweet » Apr 21, 2011 00:10

Because he is a hunter :D :D :D

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Postby Cadam » Apr 21, 2011 21:36

get cap template and respec to 50 sword 42 bc 35 stealth und you'll performing better

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Postby Seyha » Apr 22, 2011 02:22

Cadam wrote:get cap template and respec to 50 sword 42 bc 35 stealth und you'll performing better


Only if you have a str/con charge.
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Postby Astealoth » Apr 22, 2011 04:11

s/c barrel is fine, if yer gonna go pure melee hunter you might wanna run with s/c pot and haste charge, use shield and sword, take for RAs either purge2/ip2 or go high passive PD/tough/augcon and use con pot with your s/c and haste. would be pretty strong like this. a melee hunter would be really funny in ip2 purge2 tough4 pd4 augcon3. need a nice rr for this tho.

but really the best way to play a hunter is very high dex and a very slow bow and learn to kite well. melee hunter in the end is more like a shadowzerk with no poisons. i would say the strongest hunter on uthgard right now would be set up with augdex4 and mos4 and carrying a fast 1h sword to break thru assassin evade rate and shield as the last line of defense. speccing high augdex bc and bow can net some very big damage with hunter.

at rr4 you could spec 36 stealth 40 BC 45 bow 29 sword. you could use your sword sidestyle chain for the combat speed decrease to use for kiting. with selfbuff, augdex4, and dex pot you get +117 dex ontop of your base and temp. thats a pretty solid bonus to bow damage.

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Postby Sonnenschein » Apr 26, 2011 12:09

If you use spear you should cap str also - I'm not 100% sure but wasn't spear dex/str 50/50?

Ye and hunter is gimped but there is ways to play it successful ^^

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Postby vangonaj » Apr 26, 2011 13:01

Sonnenschein wrote: I'm not 100% sure but wasn't spear dex/str 50/50?


Yes you need cap st and dex.
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