Which class would be better overall for getting groups in the long run for rvr and pve? I like aspects of both and the BM reminds me of merc a lot from what playstyle will be. Just don't want to be sitting waiting on groups for awhile because I didn't pick a ideal class.

Eld i'll be the typical rvr spec 45/28moon

bm it looks like 50cd, 42shield, 39 weap, rest parry. The lvl 50 cs style looks like it'd have nice dps at the end of the 3 part side chain.

thoughts and help appreciated. I'm definately settled on hib for when live comes though.

Well, both classes are core-ish in RvR groups, even though I can see people snobbing unknown elds a little (their utility is huge but you need to be flawless on them or you're useless)

PvE: leveling up, mana casters are always welcome - especially for their PBAoE. Don't expect to be grouped in raids (DF, Dragon, Galladoria) with an eld, though, as they bring nothing to the table.

Bm will be in every GRP.most likely more than one.eld depends on setup.not must have and in most cases just 1. Also ppl will be very picky before inviting a random caster. So my suggestion is bm

good points.. I'm not new to casters at all.. live my main was a SM and loved it dearly when i had our guild group together.. pugs were harsher of course.. I know with Eld i'll have to lvl up as mana for the pbaoe aspect since that'll be more attractive than a single target DD. Since we get a free respec i'd use that to switch over to rvr spec.

I got that eld's won't get into the big raids at all, so I'm guessing i'll probably make a eld and just make sure i'm a known person lol. My playtime will be varied a lot so the missing out on raids will be a bummer (I enjoyed them a lot on genesis and learned the dungeons well), so yeah.. I'm sure i'll end up with both because you just can't have 1 character... never can

anyone can told me what is the difference to the old Charge and the Charge post NF plz?
I read on this forum that the Old charge is worst than the new one, why?

And about grapple
"Point-blank, small radius, area effect root"
is it breakable if the target is hit by magic or melee hit?

Thx

boborg wrote:anyone can told me what is the difference to the old Charge and the Charge post NF plz?
I read on this forum that the Old charge is worst than the new one, why?

And about grapple
"Point-blank, small radius, area effect root"
is it breakable if the target is hit by magic or melee hit?

Thx

Old Charge is not an RA. It's an ability that makes your sprint "free" for a short period of time if you don't change targets.

Grapple is effectively a short range aoe root. It gives root immunity, breaks on damage, and can't be used on root immune targets. I also think it is effected by det but I'm not quite as sure on that point. Overall it's terrible. Anyone who played Genesis probably has a deeply flawed perception of what this RA actually was like in 1.65.

Thx for your answer

So Eld loose Physical Defense and the speed 6 RA 5L, but off tanks loose their immune CC charge. So, in theory should me easier to kite.
The only tool for casters is running and running, and for, this eld got disease and snare DD with the mana spec.