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Gerbald
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Postby Gerbald » Mar 27, 2009 00:49

EDIT: i added number to my points, so its easier to discuss, i also added quotes from patchnotes


just some things i dont like about the Ranger right now (some of them may be bugs, some not, its just some thoughts, not i well thought through and tested bug list like the ones zippity does):

1. Piercing Styles level 44 and 50 should have stacking bleeds, but instead they overwrite each other.

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Dark Age of Camelot
Version 1.77 Release Notes
Classic ruleset Server
July 12, 2005
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Hibernia Style Changes

- Pierce - The bleed effect on Wyvern's Bite will now stack (instead of overwrite) with the bleed effect from Dragonspider.




2. Blades Styles dont chain of off evade

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Dark Age of Camelot
Version 1.74 Release Notes
Server Clustering
February 8, 2005
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Ranger

- Rangers will now receive an evade reactionary version of the Blades style, Return Blade.

- Rangers will now receive an evade reactionary version of the Celtic Dual style, Tornado.




3. (all bow classes) low damage and no range bonus for elevated position



4. R5 is usable on dead enemies and thus wasted sometimes, resetting the timer



5. (all damage add and bleedstyle classes) damage add and bleed gets effected by resists, i am not sure if thats live like, i cant remember
Last edited by Gerbald on Mar 27, 2009 20:08, edited 6 times in total.

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flex0rz
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Postby flex0rz » Mar 27, 2009 06:41

I have to agree with the PF damage add. I see it work on NPC every time but never in RVR.

I have noticed that I'm missing a hell of allot on the bow in RVR then I did on live and my bows are crafted.

As for the Piercing I don't recall them ever stacking on live.

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Postby Ronian » Mar 27, 2009 12:15

Rapidfire and normal shot damage seems to be ok, but critshot is way to low. Last time a normal shot was only 50 dam less than my crit. Even PA makes more damage than my critshot with a 5.5 bow, but we have the additional requirements to get successful.

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Lornur
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Postby Lornur » Mar 27, 2009 12:38

Gerbald wrote: [.........]

- Blades Styles dont chain of off evade

[........]


This is a change is happened on 1.85 patch, so it's impossible to have in this server that has a policy about changes to stop all at 1.80 and don't go over other patches.
don´t let yourself fool from Old RA´s and people
who say they will be good for the server.
they are NO solution..
SAY NO TO OLD RA´s!!
SAY NO TO 1.69!!
do NOT support that obviously wrong way in any way!! (source Musikus)
Blue wrote:Every discussion about /rp off is senseless.

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Johnny
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Postby Johnny » Mar 27, 2009 13:59

main problem for me as blade ranger is that there are no evade moves like it should be since 1.74.

return blade in sword line and tornado in cd line are not afterevade, so you lose up to 6 styles and get no defensive style at all with swordspec.

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massivmampfer
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Postby massivmampfer » Mar 27, 2009 14:00

Well...there have already been many custom changes beyond 1.80 so why not implement the useful versions for other classes?

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Lornur
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Postby Lornur » Mar 27, 2009 19:45

because probably they think could be the begin of asking lots of more, like warden with trainable shield.. and other

i'm speaaking about hibernia because i know , but also in every realm there is something that could be usefull.

There is a thread that speak about the nearsight for albs, because they would linke to be implemented in another class spec line like on live; but it's happen after 1.80 and staff answered no.

So i dont' think in this case they'll do something different.

Sorry for my bad english
don´t let yourself fool from Old RA´s and people
who say they will be good for the server.
they are NO solution..
SAY NO TO OLD RA´s!!
SAY NO TO 1.69!!
do NOT support that obviously wrong way in any way!! (source Musikus)
Blue wrote:Every discussion about /rp off is senseless.

Gerbald
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Postby Gerbald » Mar 27, 2009 20:09

Lornur wrote:
Gerbald wrote: [.........]

- Blades Styles dont chain of off evade

[........]


This is a change is happened on 1.85 patch, so it's impossible to have in this server that has a policy about changes to stop all at 1.80 and don't go over other patches.


Why do you say this without checking first?
You are wrong.
See my edit above, i added my source, now add yours, or did you make it up?

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Lornur
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Postby Lornur » Mar 27, 2009 22:44

Gerbald wrote:
Lornur wrote:
Gerbald wrote: [.........]

- Blades Styles dont chain of off evade

[........]


This is a change is happened on 1.85 patch, so it's impossible to have in this server that has a policy about changes to stop all at 1.80 and don't go over other patches.


Why do you say this without checking first?
You are wrong.
See my edit above, i added my source, now add yours, or did you make it up?



Sorry Mate :D

but i cannot know your changes if i posted before your edit.

Sorry i cannot read the future :)

and you are right if the patch if 1.77 continuing to ask.. i made a HUGE mistake

i'm apologize

but my sources from GOA website archive release note

Code: Select all

Note di Versione 1.85

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Dark Age of Camelot
Note di versione 1.85
Modifiche alle Abilità di commercio e alle classi
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[.......]
Lame

-   Lama dell'Orizzonte sarà ora basata sulla Schivata per Ombre e Ranger.

Perforazione

-   Tarantola sarà ora basata sulla Schivata per Ombre e Ranger.
[.....]
sorry i'm italian and this is from italian relased note on GOA website speaks about 1.85

the traslate should be this:

-Blade

horizont blade will be now based on evade for nightshade and ranger

-piercing

tarantula will be now based on evade for nightshade and ranger


I' made another mistake also in 1.74 there is the thing you are saying about style for nightshade and ranger!
don´t let yourself fool from Old RA´s and people
who say they will be good for the server.
they are NO solution..
SAY NO TO OLD RA´s!!
SAY NO TO 1.69!!
do NOT support that obviously wrong way in any way!! (source Musikus)
Blue wrote:Every discussion about /rp off is senseless.


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