Hi,

I was wondering what you guys had in mind regarding Hib setups with Old RAs. As we all know Old RA era Hib was known for their bomb grps, but would you go that way again? Why, why not?


Discuss.

simply: YES I would.. ^^

but I would not go full bomb tbh due to the fact that you might get into situations where bombing really is not the best solution so a mix between bomb/normal caster setup:

druid
druid
bard
hero
3x pbaoe, prefarbly 1 chanter 2 elds (elds specced: 39 mana 37 light)
1x mentha, demezz + for good dmg on non-bomb fights

this gives:

1. a good pbaoe
2. 2 semi good pbaoes (still strong enough to pwn)
3. 2nd demezzer + the ability to run extend groups when bombing a full group doesn't work
4. 2x Yellow NS (uber in old RA setting)

1 eld might be good with 50 mana(I believe this is last pbaoe?) 20 light though


that is how I would do it personally


ps. if I miss some weird ability that makes class X better than Y , please explain to me ^^

give away all the tactics for the enemy to read!!!!


*tin-hat off*

think will probably stick with current setup, works in theory better than it does now


bard/druid/druid/hero/ani/ench/eld/menta

but im pretty sure people will try out many setups to see what works

Yep i'm ok with

Bard
Druid x2
Eld x2 split spec for both
menta light
Ench
Menta
Hero


or

Bard
Druid x2
Eld split spec
Eld mana
Ench mana
Menta light
Hero

Can work aswell it's just more pbae axed.

I was thinking in your direction aswell, nixian.

I had the following in mind:

[x] Bard
[x] Druid
[x] Druid
[x] Hero/Slam BM
[x] Chanter
[x] Mana Eld
[x] Split Spec Eld
[x] Social Spot: BM/Ment/Ani/3rd Druid/3rd Eld/2nd Bard...


I agree that having a 2nd demezzer will be more useful with Old RAs, but I'm just not sure whether it's the best class to fill up with.


Edit: added 2nd bard to social spot option.

Artefact wrote:Bard
Druid x2
Eld x2 split spec for both
menta light
Ench
Menta
Hero

you been running in stip grp too long, that's more than 8

sorry couldn't resist!

think you all rating bombing too much imho

its nice with faster casts etc, but its still dangerous

i think kite groups is still better overall

Damn ! i screwed up ! xD

ofc -1 menta ^^

Neju wrote:think you all rating bombing too much imho

its nice with faster casts etc, but its still dangerous

i think kite groups is still better overall

Having a Mana Eld instead of a Mentalist will not make you unable to kite, it will just make your kite a little less deadly, but makes your damage in packed areas a lot more deadly.

As a social spot your can still take a Ment.

im for the eld in grp being split spec with OF ra, but full mana seems abit too much - unless you running full bomb grp.

and running without ment is damn hard, you really miss the 2nd demezz... we tried 2 eld last night and you miss the dmzz and dmg, double debuff is hard on uthgard as you go oop very fast on chanter.

Neju wrote:im for the eld in grp being split spec with OF ra, but full mana seems abit too much - unless you running full bomb grp.

and running without ment is damn hard, you really miss the 2nd demezz... we tried 2 eld last night and you miss the dmzz and dmg, double debuff is hard on uthgard as you go oop very fast on chanter.

I was talking 1x Mana Eld 1x Split Eld 1x Chanter. Yellow nearsight is a minimum imo.

If you really want that 2nd demezzer u can still go for Ment or second Bard. I do agree that it's damn useful though, especially when your other demezzer only has 1 purge every 30 mins.

Imo debuffing cold is useless, even with 2 elds because it makes your chanter go oop too fast.

I see no good enough reason (what paperdaoc is all about right ) that warrants going bomb setup. Only thing is insane MoC but you can't rely on a 30min RA. (Besides we didn't want RA dumps anymore right ).

If anything kite setups only got better. You shouldn't only look at what you gain but also what your enemy looses. No more charge, no more aog, no more PRs (except the healer RA) but probably as important no more DI (I'm told Battery of Life is 1k hps on 30min timer so terrible), greater heals being a lot slower...good luck healing overextenders. With 30min purge NS is gonna be win and you'll have a red ns class and 2x grp purge aswell. Oh and add ToA-like cast speed to that aswell. The only downside I see is mana reg being slower below 50% power but that goes for everyone.
Sounds OP to me.

My perfect setup I'm not gonna unfold

Maidrion wrote:My perfect setup I'm not gonna unfold

don't be so mean

Hey Uthgard noob here so I can't really comment on rvr here. but for rvr set ups with of ra's I wouldn't run bomb groups on hib .

hib's loose the cc battle on heavy caster groups so i'd just run debuff assist train.
druid x3 (1 high buff spec with focus shell) (gp x3)
bard
x2 eld s/s light (should win ns battle)
debuff chanter
ment with pom 3 + demezz rest in light


but honestly i'd only run one caster (s/s eld)
3 bm (they get prevent flight right?)
2 bard
2 druid

could swap out a bard for a social spot but i really think they bring the most to that group.

Maidrion wrote:The only downside I see is mana reg being slower below 50% power but that goes for everyone.

Hmmm what patch did they change that?