Never played hib, thinking of rolling it for 2.0. Thoughts?

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Postby Falken » Feb 27, 2014 00:22

I played alb on 1.0 as a merc and got up to 5L0 before I got tired of being rolled by high RR 8 man groups and stopped playing. I have been playing midgard on genesis and I really don't like their whole realm attitude that they have going on, but maybe its different on Uth I don't know.

My only concern is that I want to play a desired class for both RvR and PvE (farming/making money/temp items), but not hardcore PvE just enough to make money and get my temp done with it. After reading up on all the classes and the utility that each brings to the table I was thinking of playing a BM or an Eldritch. My only hesitation on Eldritch is that it is a caster, and in RvR melee trains are just so face roll that they win more often than lose against caster setups. Also I don't know how desirable Eld is in PvE. BM seems like a fairly solid choice as it could run in a melee tank train, or be disrupting the backline in a caster lineup, again though not sure how desirable for PvE content is.

I don't have a tight knit group that I am rolling with, because all my friends are casual and can't really handle the time commitment this game requires and they just don't appreciate true competition like I do. I would really like to find a solid RvR/8man focused guild to burn through the levels with and get grinding on our temps as soon as possible. Hit me up via PMs if you fit the bill and need a dedicated participant flexible enough to play w.e in a solid RvR/8man lineup.
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Postby Foneb » Feb 27, 2014 00:27

enchanter will be also a good pick if your more intrested in caster chats otherwise bm or druid or hero
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Postby munchies » Feb 27, 2014 01:55

Hibernia is definetly a good choice!

Eldritch is great in rvr,it has a lot of toys and is very fun to play. In PvE they are not that useful. Only void elds are used to debuff for enchanters bombs in PvE (legion raid, dragon raid etc), but void is useless in RvR.

Blademaster is fun to play, its useful in RvR and also in PvE. You are the melee dps, or extra shield, depends on the situation. BMs are loved by groups.

I would suggest you to roll a blademaster first. You can do some raids/farming as tank and earn some money to template your character. When you have enough, roll a eldritch too and play them both :). But start with BM - easier to earn some money.

Third option is, as Foneb also mentioned, the enchanter. Mana spec enchanters can farm lots of cash with just mentalist and druid in trio. They are also used for pretty much all raids. Mana enchanter is also great in RvR, you are the debuffer and also have sick aoe bombs :)

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Postby Thalien » Feb 27, 2014 10:11

Since most groups will still run 2 BMs it's a solid choice for finding groups.
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Postby Falken » Feb 27, 2014 13:04

Thanks for all the replies, in typical group makeup is there anybody that I compete with for drops? Most likely other mdps, but not sure exactly since I am 100% unfamiliar with details of hibbies. Do most BM specs utilize weapon swapping or various weapon types or just focus on one weapon type?

Groups will run 2 BM in PvE or RvR or both? What role do they fill? I would imagine not a tank guard, but more of an interrupter on the enemies backlines being an annoyance with det5 running wild. I know they are like merc from alb, but seems like hibs only have a few solid melee that they really use in PvE/RvR consistently (hero/bm I think???).
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Postby Austerim » Feb 27, 2014 13:32

Falken wrote:Thanks for all the replies, in typical group makeup is there anybody that I compete with for drops? Most likely other mdps, but not sure exactly since I am 100% unfamiliar with details of hibbies. Do most BM specs utilize weapon swapping or various weapon types or just focus on one weapon type?

Groups will run 2 BM in PvE or RvR or both? What role do they fill? I would imagine not a tank guard, but more of an interrupter on the enemies backlines being an annoyance with det5 running wild. I know they are like merc from alb, but seems like hibs only have a few solid melee that they really use in PvE/RvR consistently (hero/bm I think???).
At RR8 on my old BM I was running Blades/Pierce with Shield. Might eventually do the same depending on how hard it'd be without Tajendi but it really isn't that needed IMO. BM is mainly a rupter, snaring tanks off support, etc. when needed and all that good stuff. :)
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Falken » Feb 27, 2014 23:36

Austerim wrote:
Falken wrote:Thanks for all the replies, in typical group makeup is there anybody that I compete with for drops? Most likely other mdps, but not sure exactly since I am 100% unfamiliar with details of hibbies. Do most BM specs utilize weapon swapping or various weapon types or just focus on one weapon type?

Groups will run 2 BM in PvE or RvR or both? What role do they fill? I would imagine not a tank guard, but more of an interrupter on the enemies backlines being an annoyance with det5 running wild. I know they are like merc from alb, but seems like hibs only have a few solid melee that they really use in PvE/RvR consistently (hero/bm I think???).
At RR8 on my old BM I was running Blades/Pierce with Shield. Might eventually do the same depending on how hard it'd be without Tajendi but it really isn't that needed IMO. BM is mainly a rupter, snaring tanks off support, etc. when needed and all that good stuff. :)

Any good BM point of view videos you can point me toward? How does their play style vary from Uth 1.0 to old RAs 1.65 patch?
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Postby Austerim » Feb 28, 2014 05:27

http://uthgard.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=26634

Don't remember if he did any BM PoV but you should be able to see their BMs in action in the videos. :)
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lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby darklys » Mar 04, 2014 16:30

http://www.youtube.com/user/michaelg9511/videos

I am also rolling a BM for Uthgard 2.0. I've been watching quite a few videos myself, as I have never played as the off-tank before. This dude plays BM/bard/eld in his videos and he's damn good from what I've seen so far. Click through the videos to the parts when he's on his Firby BM, that should help you get some sort of idea.

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Postby Falken » Mar 07, 2014 18:53

darklys wrote:http://www.youtube.com/user/michaelg9511/videos

I am also rolling a BM for Uthgard 2.0. I've been watching quite a few videos myself, as I have never played as the off-tank before. This dude plays BM/bard/eld in his videos and he's damn good from what I've seen so far. Click through the videos to the parts when he's on his Firby BM, that should help you get some sort of idea.

Thanks!!
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Postby darkar » Mar 07, 2014 19:13

Watch out for :
- defense/armor penetration bug fix ?
- bolt bug fix ?

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Postby darklys » Mar 08, 2014 14:59

And remember you can always roll a druid/animist/warden(pbt) as your first 50 for pve. It's never a bad idea to roll a "raid toon" that is highly desired for raids / gold farming. Remember it's easy mode getting to 50 in Hib, probably easier than any other realm imo, so it shouldn't be a problem getting one pve toon leveled and one rvr toon. This is what i generally do and it works out pretty good.

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Postby Austerim » Mar 08, 2014 16:24

darkar wrote:Watch out for :
- defense/armor penetration bug fix ?
- bolt bug fix ?
Defense penetration will make it into Uthgard 2.0. Not sure about bolts but they were researched and just need a formula figured out I think so maybe they'll make it in also.
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[3:10pm] <myrmidon^> that's what I learnt
[3:11pm] <Frosty_> then why does austerim suck
lordgriffon wrote:Oh by the way... ever seen a group of 8 smite clerics? Or play against a group like that? I have. Absolute devastation. The group that runs up against them can't kill them fast enough because smite clerics have sooooooo many tools at their disposal combined with decent ranged damage with 8 of them dudes doing it!

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Postby Caemma » Mar 08, 2014 23:47

Austerim wrote:
darkar wrote:Watch out for :
- defense/armor penetration bug fix ?
- bolt bug fix ?
Defense penetration will make it into Uthgard 2.0. Not sure about bolts but they were researched and just need a formula figured out I think so maybe they'll make it in also.

So it will still make sense to go split spec?? Lower weaponskill..
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Postby Byun » Mar 08, 2014 23:55

Caemma wrote:So it will still make sense to go split spec?? Lower weaponskill..

No idea about that, just make some tests yourself^^
It's also funny how people simply expect things to be done, without even considering to help with the researches :D
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