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kinthos
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Postby kinthos » Mar 16, 2017 16:02

What are typical legendary SC costs being charged? I know it's down to individual crafters but wanted to poll what people are being charged generally.

Costs for:
+ 5pt OC multi parts (2+ parts)
+ 5pt OC single part
+ non-OC multi parts (2+ parts)
+ non-OC single part

Anyone able to share their experiences?
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Postby Enioch » Mar 16, 2017 16:40

For me it depends on the number of pieces, the level of the gems, the OC amount, and the level of the gear.

More pieces? more drudgery crafting gems for days = more cost

Higher level gems lose more money per craft = more cost

More OC means higher lvl gems = more cost

Level of gear = higher level gems = more cost

For non guildies minimum I charge is 250g per piece. Level 51 gear = 300g per piece. 37.5 OC = 350g per piece.
1-6 pieces those are my prices. More than 6 pieces and I add some more cost. And usually round up a bit from final number like 100-200g

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Postby Uzkrak » Mar 17, 2017 13:21

Generally approved by all Spellcrafters I talk to:

400g per piece Overcharge (that evens out nicely jobs with higher or lower gems,with a solid income of 1-1,5 plat per crafting hour, which is what you can also earn by solid farming in the same time which would be less "boring")
Staffs with 2-3x lvl 50 Focus are double the price

From guildmates and good ingame friends I take around 2p for a whole set, (material costs are roughly 750g per set, but you also craft 2h for it if you are not extremely lucky)

Depending on who is the client i sometimes go down to 325-350g a piece when they seem very feshly 50 and broke and bring 4+ items, depends on my mood though.

Non OC i generally do for mat costs + tip only since you dont use much time for single trys

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Postby Keith Johnson » Mar 17, 2017 16:44

Jesus I wonder if I should just roll a spellcrafter then. Have a group of 8 I am getting geared. At about 50plat as a guild should be about 60plat when the last person is 50.

66 items in total to be spellcrafted and I'm sure as hell not giving someone nearly 30 plat for that lol

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Postby Djisaz » Mar 17, 2017 19:06

Keith Johnson wrote:Jesus I wonder if I should just roll a spellcrafter then. Have a group of 8 I am getting geared. At about 50plat as a guild should be about 60plat when the last person is 50.

66 items in total to be spellcrafted and I'm sure as hell not giving someone nearly 30 plat for that lol


nobody is forcing u to give sb 30 plat.
feel free to roll a spellcrafter yourself!
if u do, u will realise pretty soon that it isnt funny at all.
if u want platin go farm salvage loot or kill named mobs

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Postby Keith Johnson » Mar 17, 2017 19:33

Djisaz wrote:
Keith Johnson wrote:Jesus I wonder if I should just roll a spellcrafter then. Have a group of 8 I am getting geared. At about 50plat as a guild should be about 60plat when the last person is 50.

66 items in total to be spellcrafted and I'm sure as hell not giving someone nearly 30 plat for that lol


nobody is forcing u to give sb 30 plat.
feel free to roll a spellcrafter yourself!
if u do, u will realise pretty soon that it isnt funny at all.
if u want platin go farm salvage loot or kill named mobs


Literally the first thing I said was maybe I need to roll a spellcrafter myself. I just assumed SC prices weren't laughably overpriced. I'll keep looking but if that's what everyone thinks is acceptable I'll do it myself. It literally would be cheaper for me to level 1-1000 and spellcraft the 8 sets myself than pay someone 400+ gold each for 66 items.

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Postby neighborhoodwatch » Mar 17, 2017 20:08

Its expensive but I usually end up spending 800 gold or more for the many tries it takes to get 99 quality gems. That cost on top of taking at least 2 hours to do you will see why it costs a good amount.

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Postby Uzkrak » Mar 17, 2017 20:28

If you have 8 temps to do and the time, by all means roll a sc yourself, should cost less than 10 plat until legendary, at least it did for me

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Postby silenced » Mar 17, 2017 20:35

It's even cheaper in the long run if you make yourself an SC just to maybe outfit your own chars you make. Especially if playing in a guild: someone should make an SC in that guild. If not, it's a lot of money wasted.
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Postby kinthos » Mar 18, 2017 13:22

Keith Johnson wrote:
Djisaz wrote:
Keith Johnson wrote:Jesus I wonder if I should just roll a spellcrafter then. Have a group of 8 I am getting geared. At about 50plat as a guild should be about 60plat when the last person is 50.

66 items in total to be spellcrafted and I'm sure as hell not giving someone nearly 30 plat for that lol


nobody is forcing u to give sb 30 plat.
feel free to roll a spellcrafter yourself!
if u do, u will realise pretty soon that it isnt funny at all.
if u want platin go farm salvage loot or kill named mobs


Literally the first thing I said was maybe I need to roll a spellcrafter myself. I just assumed SC prices weren't laughably overpriced. I'll keep looking but if that's what everyone thinks is acceptable I'll do it myself. It literally would be cheaper for me to level 1-1000 and spellcraft the 8 sets myself than pay someone 400+ gold each for 66 items.


Please let us know how you get on. ;)

I feel like I'm pricing my SC about right for guild and non-guild now. Thanks for the responses.
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Postby Borondir » Mar 18, 2017 17:23

I doubt that many can farm 1-1,5p per hour and don't forget, the whole time spent, from the beginning, riding etc. counts too.

On the other hand, everyone has the choice to pay so much or look for a cheaper SCler. And bzw, mobs farming is no fun too. Atleast when crafting stones i can watch tv at the same time - will be a bit difficult when farming mobs.
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Postby Gohan » Mar 18, 2017 21:26

I made an Scer on Mid (which I've now left behind :'( :'( ) and the amount of time it took was disgusting..... cost wasn't too bad (around 7p to 1000) but by the end 2 min craft time, 2-3 fails per success, 2-3 success per point...... getting a skill up of around 4 points per hour is not funny and SC'er deserved to be compensated for their time and effort. Ever tho it's expensive we intend to buy our SC as I'm not going through that hell again....


This was crafting orange gems, you could do yellow and blue and fail less so skill faster, but then you're looking at doubling the cost to 12-15p.

400g per piece is completely fair because even when you take out the original cost and time (which should be compensated) it still takes time and money and if you can make more in a salvage, loot or DF grp then why would you bother to SC?

Yes it's expensive, but it is what it is. If you find someone mad enough to do it at 300g/piece let me know cos we'll have about 15 sets for him to do over the next few weeks ;)
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Postby Gohan » Mar 18, 2017 21:31

Cave_Sham wrote:nobody can farm 5p per hour

no one said 5p per hour. It takes on average, 30 mins per piece depending on how lucky you are. You may get 3 pieces done in an hour is it goes well.

at 400g about 250g-300g is profit depending on luck and gems. so worst case you make 500g an hour best case about 900g. It's good money, but that's why people do it for that. Any lower (even 350g) you're looking at 400-750g an hour, and there is no guarantee of farming that without DF but if you go for template items you might get 4-5 times that in an hour of farming.
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Postby Borondir » Mar 19, 2017 11:49

Yes, when you only do 2-3 items per hour your income will suffer. I normally do 4 items per hours as long no focus gems are involved. With 4 items per hour you raised your income to a good point. Just depends where you craft, how long you need to search for the right gems and so on.
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Postby Keith Johnson » Mar 20, 2017 00:49

Gohan wrote:400g per piece is completely fair because even when you take out the original cost and time (which should be compensated) it still takes time and money and if you can make more in a salvage, loot or DF grp then why would you bother to SC?


Is that a serious question? It's literally a gold producing factory that you can do sitting half afk in a city or house, watching YouTube and pressing 1 every 30 seconds. Such minimal effort just time.

That's like saying it's not worth it to turn 10000 sapphire bars into hinges and better to just vendor because the time it takes to do it would be better farming more gold with a group..

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