You all forgot to mention broken melee combat which makes it impossible to land styles normally because of out of view/out of range bug. Trying to land a side style while moving on a moving target from an angle that is definitely in the side arc is impossible on uthgard.

Celteen wrote:Do you think a duo bard+ VW is a decent setup with 1.69 and old RA? As a duo you dont need determination that much and if rooted you still have nice nukes.
I heard the Reaver proc damage is extremly high on Uthgard, so whats wrong with the VW procs?

Reavers have the same problem as VW, procs are totally random - so sometimes higher, sometimes lower.

In duo I'd still prefer a det char because if you find other duos they will probably run with a CC char (sorc/healer/shaman/...) I've played quite a lot in sorc + cleric duo and usually the only problem I have in small group fights is det tanks because they are out of CC before I have time to kill.. while a detless VW is sure to die during cleric stun
Also VW will lose most of its damage because conflagration will be useless.

Personally my RR6 valewalker is gonna see the delete button when this crap is out ^^

Hedra wrote:Personally my RR6 valewalker is gonna see the delete button when this crap is out ^^

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There is only one solution to fixing Valewalker...

Grant them newer style lines as well as Immolation and AoE disease at 40spec.... oh and give them Physical Defence RA

_Oglop_ wrote:There is only one solution to fixing Valewalker...

Grant them newer style lines as well as Immolation and AoE disease at 40spec.... oh and give them Physical Defence RA

That's like giving someone a Formula1 race car before he can even drive. It needs determination and the ability to actually hit first