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Uvea
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Postby Uvea » Jan 10, 2013 15:02

No it's not. Why would it be a joke ?

Evade is the only defense bards have. As everything is quite easily capped, why not try and cap this as well ?

If you read the thread, you'll see that capping quickness on a bard will only boost evade by approx 2% in the best scenario. It does sound ridiculous, but if you keep in mind that people cap slash/thrust/crush to 26 rather than 24%, you might reconsider.

My conclusion is : I believe that 2% more evade is not such a ridiculous idea... provided it doesn't penalize the template.

And actually, it does. Indeed, it is probably impossible to add +75 quickness and still have valuable charges such as D/Q buff and DD. This is the reason why I have been thinking on the 2nd template.

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Postby Magicco » Jan 10, 2013 15:57

and do not forget those 2% are only with an mob as an opponent (on uth a berserker would count the same as a mob in regards of the defense penetration)

if uthgard will ever implement this livelike defensepenetration your 2 % will melt down about less than 0,5% i assume.

small example to understand my speech: a bard will evade more against an unbuffed runemaster (low stats, low damage-tier) against a fullbuffed beserker (high stats, high damage-tier)

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Postby Uvea » Jan 10, 2013 16:08

Magicco wrote:and do not forget those 2% are only with an mob as an opponent (on uth a berserker would count the same as a mob in regards of the defense penetration)

if uthgard will ever implement this livelike defensepenetration your 2 % will melt down about less than 0,5% i assume.

small example to understand my speech: a bard will evade more against an unbuffed runemaster (low stats, low damage-tier) against a fullbuffed beserker (high stats, high damage-tier)


I know, and you are right.

Nonetheless, considering how slow things move here (SI not implemented, bugs, no OF RAs causing serious imbalance, etc.), this might not be coming anytime soon. :-)

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Postby Magicco » Jan 10, 2013 16:34

just want to give the advice that the 75 quick are only spent money for such a small effort^^

even on live no sb or slash infil (there are no trusth infis anymore^^) use no or only a lil bit in dexterity for their evade increase, cause the bonus it way to tiny and impossible to cap within the more important stuff

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Postby Uvea » Jan 10, 2013 16:50

Magicco wrote:just want to give the advice that the 75 quick are only spent money for such a small effort^^

even on live no sb or slash infil (there are no trusth infis anymore^^) use no or only a lil bit in dexterity for their evade increase, cause the bonus it way to tiny and impossible to cap within the more important stuff


Agree with you - but once again, the situation is very different. There is no way that a stealther on live can cap everything with a 99% template - there are much more important to do : HP, decaps, ToA bonuses, Mythirians, Charges, etc etc... Over there, the question is about making sacrifices and choices - drop something to get something better.

I am 100% sure that if it was possible for them to cap everything with a 99% temp (as it is here for a bard - see Frinjan's template), some would also try and cap quickness and dex.

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Postby pweet » Jan 10, 2013 17:25

10l4 and still with thid SC (6p in total due to MP instrus only). go and do rvr instead of farming money for a wasted temp.

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Postby Uvea » Jan 10, 2013 17:45

pweet wrote:10l4 and still with thid SC (6p in total due to MP instrus only). go and do rvr instead of farming money for a wasted temp.


I am lvl 36 and made lots of RPs yesterday evening in Brae. Not quite farming yet. :D

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