If you like the class play it.

Seicar that was a great explanation. All i needed to hear

I liked the class but it had some disadvantes I was hoping might be better in this patch setting.

You like the class? Then play it.

Try something along the line of:

- 36 nature (two instant roots, biggest pet, decent DoT)

- 23 regrowth (two instant heals)

- 30 nurture (all blue buffs)

This will leave you with 90 unspent skillpoints that you can spend either in nature (yellow aoe-root... not worth it imo) or in regrowth (my recommendation: 50%-rezz gives better rezz-exp, plus your healing generally improves with greater heal lvl 25 and major heal lvl 26).

For RAs you go for Long Wind 2 (endless sprint with endu pot 3), purge, grp-purge (two purges for you! ), this will need 3L8; followed then maybe by armor of faith, wild minion, Avoidance of Magic (this one especially vs. the assassin classes).

Then you just do solo-rvr and smallman-rvr. Be sure to carry charges with dex/qui-debuffs and str/con-debuffs for your enemies and AF-buffs for you.

Would a Nature + a Nurture Druid not be more useful in an 8man setup than 2 Nurture druids?

probably not because nature druids only dmg is the DoT which would break more CC than it's worth and just doesn't tick fast enough for what you need it for in 8vs8

Zakoraya wrote:Would a Nature + a Nurture Druid not be more useful in an 8man setup than 2 Nurture druids?

Yes and we will see that in good groups.no need for 2nuture.instant ae root is very powerful. Just charge D/q and the nuture druid does the rest.

pweet wrote:

Zakoraya wrote:Would a Nature + a Nurture Druid not be more useful in an 8man setup than 2 Nurture druids?

Yes and we will see that in good groups.no need for 2nuture.instant ae root is very powerful. Just charge D/q and the nuture druid does the rest.

I like the sound of that. What would said Nature Druids spec be?

quantic wrote:

pweet wrote:

Zakoraya wrote:Would a Nature + a Nurture Druid not be more useful in an 8man setup than 2 Nurture druids?

Yes and we will see that in good groups.no need for 2nuture.instant ae root is very powerful. Just charge D/q and the nuture druid does the rest.

I like the sound of that. What would said Nature Druids spec be?

Something like 40 heal 36 nature

Juri wrote:Something like 40 heal 36 nature

cool thanks man i'll check it out

quantic wrote:

Juri wrote:Something like 40 heal 36 nature

cool thanks man i'll check it out

Np. You can also try to play around with the values depending on your needs: for example, you could go 39 nature for the 60s aoe root and 35 on heals if you feel like having some more seconds of root and heals with lower cost (but lower value too)

Hey @Seethoven

To reply to ur first post, i dont really know if its gonna be better or worse, i'd maybe say better bcause of the 30 min purge for everyone but i dont really know.

I'm actually playing nature druid and enjoying it alot just with df gear.
I'm actually running 36 nature 30 buff and 26 heals with groupe purge, purge and wild minions 3, its pretty fine you can solo lot of classes even some ppl with temp'ed

Of course u get rapped by some class and its kinda dependant of cooldowns but with 2 purge 2 instant heal 2 insta roots its pretty fun (in my opinion)

Prolly gonna rr this sh** when fresh restart xddd

Nature druid is cult, but without hastener, mounts, horseroutes it will also lack of playability cause of missing speed. Hib really has a big disadvantage for solo players when not picking a speed or stealther class, they are probably limited to Darkness falls.

I ´m thinking about playing a Warden or nature druid, but the missing speed scares me to pick a nature druid. Well I could always specc it for groups if it won ´t work, hm ? Not an easy choice.

Hey Jerrian :p

Yeah i have the same feeling about "non-speed classes" but if you go that way you can only play warden or ench or stealth as u mentionned for soloing : p

Anyway as far as Ive experienced if you camp amg (or abit around) its ok with nature druid but yeah its kinda nasty without speed realm after the first fight

Ive tried warden (was kinda the first time at 50) its kinda fun in 1v1 but cant really know if its worth with df gear as i get rapped most of the time in 1v1 xd but feels good with speed, rs and co

So yeah tough choice but yeah i guess about druid you can always respec and grp in the worst case, have u tried it on the i50 already ? :p

Cheerz

oursi wrote:Hey Jerrian :p

Yeah i have the same feeling about "non-speed classes" but if you go that way you can only play warden or ench or stealth as u mentionned for soloing : p

Anyway as far as Ive experienced if you camp amg (or abit around) its ok with nature druid but yeah its kinda nasty without speed realm after the first fight

Ive tried warden (was kinda the first time at 50) its kinda fun in 1v1 but cant really know if its worth with df gear as i get rapped most of the time in 1v1 xd but feels good with speed, rs and co

So yeah tough choice but yeah i guess about druid you can always respec and grp in the worst case, have u tried it on the i50 already ? :p

Cheerz

Hey Oursi,
Can ´t play at the moment cause my PC is broken since a long time *sigh*, but I ´ll get it back repaired next week and hope I ´m finally able to test out some things then.

I ´m playing daoc since beta and rolled about 5 wardens/druids in my daoc career , I know about advantages and disadvantages but I only perfomed a nature druid with toa (big ml9 pet whohoo) and focused on pve then, I guess it ´s really weaker with old ras. It ´s long time ago and I really forgot in these years how many things were back in these days.

Warden is looking bad against casters, ok against tanks, assas are a bit tricky, it really depends on luck too there and ofc you need decent gear and picked ras for solo.
Due warden is kinda hybrid and nothing strong in any particular way it ´s getting really strong with higher realmrank if you can boost your defence.
Nature druid has more utility, in my opinion- range attacks for rupt and snare, 2 insta heals and if you play smart it ´s a real hard to kill char but it ´s lacking weaponskill, so you get counter styles very often when missing to hit your opponent and the melee over time damage is poor.

Btw. I would never go to emain with a non visible char solo as a hib at europe prime time, duos, groups will zerg you and you often have the long way back, that ´s gonna be really annoying, frustrating and painful. I would like to play with the guys from the states because there are less groups out then and at Uth1 it was possible to have some nice duels at amg in emain in this timezone. But as european I ve to work and sleep at these times, lol.

Dunno if it ´s fun to look for opponents in albion and midgard with no speed, you can explore these maps for hours without finding someone to kill I guess... , DF is the place to be for soloers.

When I ´m able to test beta, I ´ll try a nature druid and a warden and look at killspeed on mobs, it ´s not a test for rvr, but maybe it helps to make my choice.

Heyyy,

Ah yeah I see you have way more experience about these classes than me then :p I used to have a ML9 druid also on live server and had lot of fun with it in PVE & RVR but yeah its totally different from what u get on uth 2.0 tho.

Well yeah during european prime times its tough... anyway there is some duels at @amg and some fg dont rape you if u soloing it feels good.

I've tried lot of classes during the i50 beta with df gears and for now, its with nature druid i killed the most ppl, lot of duo / trio but yeah as u mentionned if the guy purge your iroot you are kinda dead I mean you rely on pet stun etc to heal or dot again. I dont play with endu pots or long wind tho, so maybe it could help alot .

Yeah going alb or mid with no speed .. so nasty i think

I tried nature and warden in Pve in sherooe hills and bog of cullen, warden is better to farm and chill. Hope you can test out this soon tho :p For DF i dont know if i'd be confident to go rvr there with nature druid, it takes so much time to kills orange mobs to go xroad..