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Harting
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Postby Harting » Jan 07, 2010 16:26

yeah Melodexx i was wrong, sry. ofc warden is not weak, its a very powerful class and insta kills everything..

with slam and cele wardens got a huge utility upgrade on live after 1.80, and thats not for no reason.

u can beat soem other visible tanks with solo warden ok. but vs assasins/caster u lose, vs other hybrid classes like friar it will eb very hard.

50 blunt specc pro:
good for solo cuz of long blunt stun. stun the enemy and kill with sidechain.

con: 'only' yellow spelsl from buffline, so u got only yellow resists. and resists are next to aog one of the main reasons to grp a warden, so for a grp warden resists shoul be red.
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Melodexx
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Postby Melodexx » Jan 07, 2010 19:34

who is talking about insta pwn kill class?
go then for live and play warlocks

i just said he is solo ok and u can beat stealthers also casters
holzmichl did also ....

he didnt asked for best solo class .. he just asked about wardens

warden is a allround char he can do alot but nothing perfect
he is perfect for a duo trio combo
and in group he can also played aswell

50 blunt if u go solo
42heal 38nurt 22 parry 25 weap if u want group :)

btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00tx_wxXUM4


everything is possible sometimes i win vs rr9 sb sometime i lose vs rr4 infi so QQ

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Postby Zarkor » Jan 07, 2010 19:59

Lmao dude, Holzmichel was RR10, that vid is from live; you're not really giving any valid info.

Warden can be ok, sure, but using RR10 and live examples isn't giving a picture of how they are in reality.

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Melodexx
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Postby Melodexx » Jan 07, 2010 21:10

Zarkor wrote:Lmao dude, Holzmichel was RR10, that vid is from live; you're not really giving any valid info.

Warden can be ok, sure, but using RR10 and live examples isn't giving a picture of how they are in reality.


says a guy that only log if his guild logs for ''pro rvr'' ??

if u go solo do it ur way and do it on ur ways

go duo/trio if u want have some fun ventrilo/teamspeak and more chances

go 8vs8 if u have ur nerd guild for nerd things

but dont say a warden cant roll if u dont tried it

ok i am honest delete all ur vw/wardens/champs/animist/mentalist

hib only need eld druid bm bards chant thx

yes its not like live servers stealthers do dmg here like bms do .. thats a big fault .. also hib tanks sucks alot .. if u see it like this

delete all hib char go only play mid here on uthgard =))

but dont tell a warden he cant beat anyone in a 1on1 or something else

was playing alot of duo with a ward and i cant say it wasnt that bad we won also against sorc/clerics or couple of guys up to 4-5

so i just say if u like this char dont give it up

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Shav
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Postby Shav » Jan 07, 2010 21:46

Melodexx wrote:
50 blunt if u go solo
42heal 38nurt 22 parry 25 weap if u want group :)

btw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00tx_wxXUM4



this warden is 42 shield 42 reg 38 nurt 10 blades rest parry specced actually ~~

and mls, cele and shield changes a lot i would say. Not hard to guess it wont work on uthgard


@melodexx
Melodexx wrote:says a guy that only log if his guild logs for ''pro rvr'' ??

thats guild you are looking for i guess? (at least your signature says so)

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Teslyn
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Postby Teslyn » Jan 08, 2010 00:42

Thanks for all of the input so far people. Thank you.

As for why I started this thread well, it's gotten a little disconcerting the input and sometimes teasing I've gotten when in the couple of groups I've been in. It's really become apparent that people invite wardens because they either don't care what they have for that last spot, or because someone in the group knows the warden and is taking pity.

So I was feeling pretty craptastic in my decision to play a class that seemed so laughable to the rest of the Hibernian realm.

And well, I do keep in touch in game with a couple other people who play other classes mostly solo, and while I'm pretty sure we play nearly the same amount of time, they are completely out pacing me in levels, which to me meant that not only was my character useless to most groups, it sucked at soloing as well. (holy run on sentence)

But I guess it's just me the operator who sucks.

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Melodexx
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Postby Melodexx » Jan 08, 2010 04:12

irony 4tw :)

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Teslyn
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Postby Teslyn » Jan 08, 2010 04:41

Melodexx wrote:irony 4tw :)


The operator error line should have had the <sarcasm></sarcasm> surrounding it. ;)

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koruun
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Postby koruun » Jan 08, 2010 11:02

The thing with Wardens in group-rvr is like this imo: they make sense in melee setups with 3-4 melee dps, but when it comes to hybrid- or caster-setups, they aren't really useful in comparison to what an additional caster, melee or guardtank adds to the group. But this is only for optimized setups, wardens do have a spot in some PuGs.
Why ToA-RAs advance high RR groups more than old RAs do:
http://www.abload.de/img/whyoldrasaremorefairjozk.png

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Teslyn
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Postby Teslyn » Jan 08, 2010 15:36

On an entirely different note concerning my warden, does anyone know where a level 30 blades with a proc may drop? My Koa blade is getting blue-ish green.

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Der_Eisbaer
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Postby Der_Eisbaer » Jan 08, 2010 16:04

Sickle of Pestilence, OTD from "Withe"

Leave Druim Ligen to the south and turn right. Follow the river. Exact location is 32k,06k. Withe spawns at night.

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Postby Zarkor » Jan 08, 2010 16:04

Teslyn wrote:On an entirely different note concerning my warden, does anyone know where a level 30 blades with a proc may drop? My Koa blade is getting blue-ish green.


Crescent gem clicker thingy is a blade with a lvl 33 proc, dropped from gem clickers in CM.

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Xalara
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Postby Xalara » Jan 15, 2010 10:38

warden is a wasted slot

no good group would EVER invite a warden without cele / shield, and those who do, have no clue about what it takes to do successfull 8v8 rvr. PERIOD.

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Akip
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Postby Akip » Jan 15, 2010 14:25

well either take menta or ward in grp m8 for mezz
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massivmampfer
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Postby massivmampfer » Jan 15, 2010 15:52

Zarkor wrote:Lmao dude, Holzmichel was RR10, that vid is from live; you're not really giving any valid info.

Warden can be ok, sure, but using RR10 and live examples isn't giving a picture of how they are in reality.


Well...of course rr10 warden is bad example. You must know...

When i started on this server i was rr5

when i first visited bog of cullen i was rr6

when i made my first tour through DF i was rr7

when i dinged to lvl 50 i was rr8

when i completed my tempplate i was rr9

when i killed my first realm enemy i was rr10

For Gods sake im special and reached rr10 and own hard. All other wardens will never reach rr10 because they are unplayable.

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